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we have john nichols clinical professor and pathology at the university of hong kong. and from johanna spoke helen rees, member of south africa ministerial advisory committee for cove at 19 and cove. vaccines. very welcome to all. thank you for joining us. i'd like to begin with, you was also at the start of the pandemic. we were all saying heard immunity. it was the buzzword. that's what we need. heard. immunity is that done and dusted now . as the cat out of the bag, i think we need at this point to, to really change the discourse and maybe change the narrative around what our goals are. and i think rather than using that term in unity and knowing that these vaccines we have, which are really super vaccines do not absolutely protect against every single infection, but protect against a severe in this hospitalizations. and maybe we should move to using more of a terminology for protection, rather than heard in unity as much more of a she's a will go for all of us to try to achieve, to ultimately try and scale up vaccination around the world. so we can protect as many

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