you're dead. >> well, john nickels, that was pr pretty graphic.the live account of a 911 tape on two men who were caught burglarized and gunned down and killed dead by a civilian who decided to use this law and he was defended in court on the basis off this law. john? >> absolutely. you will find -- yes. you will find cases like this in places across the country. there is a case in wisconsin and where -- >> how can he say he was defending himself. just a moment, back to the law and how it is used. stand your ground means if you are in danger of somebody is coming at you and you are in danger of your life and threatening you or with a gun outside of your home, and how does that relate to how he went after them? >> well, the issue here is that there are several variations on the stand your ground laws. there is a castle doctrine law which suggests that you can protect your property and the environs right out to the sidewalk. stand your ground is more something that takes it out to the streets. the bottom line on this, chris, is that the interpretati

let's turn to wisconsin's state senator chris larson and john nickels, washington correspondent.to have you us tonight. senator, the castle doctrine, had it not been passed into law in wisconsin, would the man that killed beau morrison be in jail tonight? >> there would be an investigation. unfortunately, every murder is tragedy. what makes the murder of beau morrison more tragic is there going to be no investigation, no justice for his family because this law razz signed in the last year. if this was not signed, there would be an investigation and justice brought. it's unfortunate that we have this in wisconsin as we have trayvon martin in florida. it's unfortunate that you said, shoot first and squ questions later. it's more ask questions never that these laws are on the books. we can do better. >> how strict or how loosely is it written to give somebody the liberty to use a firearm? >> we had a long debate on this earlier in the last year. what's really frustrating is we try to point out how insane this law was. i got to a point where i was using humor saying the worst game of

nickel back has a hockey rink in his basement? >> wow. >> why would i know that? why do you know that? >> johnich told me. >> his basement must be huge. >> it is huge. it is a regulation size hockey rink in his basent in. that means his basement is the size of a regulation hockey rink. that's crazy. >> it is crazy. >> is he canadian? >> i think so. >> makes sense. >> i believe he is from detroit. >> never mind. >> somebody told me that in my ear. you asked if we had seen a stick of videos. we have done both stories on the show. thanks for watching. >> i feel like she is legitimately apologizing. >> it is okay. >> that works. nice save. abouter -- bernard, you don't want to admit that you are dealing with a goon like putin. >> you compromise and work out out -- compromise the missal defense. sellout to putin. putin is a nazi-like goon in my opinion. that's a scary thing. the fact that he was busted and putin's flunky is just that. >> he wasn't even talking to putin. >> he was talking kgb speak too. it should send a chill up everybody's spine and our allies like israel -- four more years like i

spend just enough, not a nickel more than necessary, like joe kennedy use to say, i am not paying for a landslide, son. it is so businessy. is that what's going on, john heilemann? >> it is a data driven campaign. mitt romney is a data driven guy. people around him are data driven people. you know, and there's a repair for it, when it comes to the ad spending. this is a campaign that was supposed to be one of its great advantages would be its financial advantage. it spent a ton of money and a lot more money than ever expected to have to spend on this republican nomination fight, and they are still believing they'll be the nominee, mitt romney will be the nominee. they are trying to conserve resources. eventually they have to go against barack obama. there's a reason to not spend more than they need to. yes, they are very, very careful, methodical, spread sheet driven operation. >> does anybody like mitt romney more because of the $100 million that he spent? >> of course not. the problem is they're trying to sell a northeastern moderate republican governor to republican primary base that has gone so right, it is almost off the cliff. so they've had to