and then john niehen. >> my name is stella. i'm a volunteer and assistant for seniors. it's a program that provides emergency groceries for low-income seniors in the city. and we provide these emergency bags once a week to close to 1,000 households, low-income households in the city. the church basement is a very critical part of our program. we use that to assemble our grocery bags. every day monday through thursday, 9:00 to 2:00 in the afternoon we do that. so without that space, we will not be able to continue our program. thank you. supervisor maxwell: thank you. john and then father mccarthy and then jim foster. >> my name is john. i'm executive director of groceries for seniors and also one of the founders of groceries for seniors which was started in 1999 at sacred heart church in the western addition. after five years of being at sacred heart church, they were not able to come up with the renovation money to -- because they had also been affected by the 1989 earthquake. the city gave them three five-year extensions, and still the congregation, which was a very s