mean, no, no, no, it's no, no, but of course they have gone so far and saying that you crank and john, nigel and nato can accept your grain. that is very difficult to climb down from that song. and rush of course says rightly so. no ukraine, it, nato. so michael has to try to, to juggle with these 2 balls. quite difficult. do you think he can secure any kind of historic move in his talks of the kremlin later this monday? or is he just got one eye on the presidential election of china? burnish his statesman, and the credentials as well. stage is trying to improve his credentials. oh, that will be difficult with us. but on any way, i think it's more on the european side that it could, john help. oh, it will not get anything in moscow very probably, or in key of but on, you will be able to advance the, the attitude of europeans that want to see to their own defense in the future and would rely less on nato in america than before. okay, well we're gonna keep watch on that visits and talk to more people later in the day and have our corresponded outside the credited to for now though in brussels,