o'connor married john o'connor who she met in law school and had three children and at one point her nanny quit her job and stay home five years with having justice o'connor as your stay at home mom was probably not the best experience because she had such unbelievable energy and never sleeps. she decided in addition to running the junior league and being co-chair of the republican party organization, that she would cook a different meal every single night. even martin ginsburg didn't do that. finally, she says in her classic o'connor way to get away from being president of the junior league she went back to work. >> michelle was born in 1964, different generation, 30 years after justice o'connor and she had the choice to stay home when she worked at the university of chicago and said it would drive her crazy and she clearly has worked hard to balance things. she has a drive to make a difference, she has a drive to succeed along the way and it has been intriguing how this played out and also like a reject test how many different groups received her choice is and how many different way

john o'connor left a lucrative practice in phoenix and went to washington where he never again had a great of career. you have to give him credit for supporting her. i want to also say whether it is same-sex marriage or opposite-sex marriage or no marriage at all but if you decide to get married these were great marriages, they made each other happy, they loved each other, and it was beautiful. it was heartwarming to me because high husband just died when i started writing the book so i loved seeing how happy they were. >> host: the next call is marcy in new hampshire. go ahead. >> caller: linda, i cannot wait to read your book. i look forward to it. my question is: have you noticet or did you note in your book any of the differences that women on the supreme court now in their decisions make differently than the previous supreme courts which were all men? and is it just the issues that they have to deal with? thank you. >> guest: that is a very, very good question. sandra day o'connor's juris prudence on cases involving women were more liberal than her decisions any other arena. san

schools coming together for the public to know that the two schools merging and will be all part of john o'connor beginning negotiation and just an incredibly successful share of vision and purpose and a lot of positive energy and optimism about the future of john o'connor in our view representative of vision 2025 and its future of public education in san francisco unidentified is happening if you're lucky to attend there we're really excited about what is happening at o colonel and only defamates budget services ms. norton. >> the budget and services committee met last wednesday one action item that was the physical ed pending before the board because the staff analysis went deep into the go t c resolution and didn't cover some of the budgeted potential budget impacts of the other exceptions and proposals in related to physical ed in the proposal we decided not to hear that and bring that back to the budget committee for the may 4th meeting with a flushed out analysis of the entire resolution so we'll be at this point hearing that again on may '34 in addition, we had the department budget review

o'connor. she would have been great and is widely respected. john roberts was a young man so i want to say some years. >> host: next caller is jade from ohio. you have we are listening and you are on with linda hirshman talking about the supreme court. >> caller: thank you. linda, you have such a wonderful sense of humor. it is great to hear that on c-span. thank you for that. what is the link between ruth bader ginsburg and sandra day o'connor to the first ladies? the next question i have is all that has been going on how did both justice ginsburg and sandra day o'connor link up with the wife of [inaudible question] >> caller: i think the women are left out which is unfortunate. >> guest: ruth bader ginsburg is responsible are the supreme court publishing a book about not being in power. she was the wife of another supreme court justice and she turned out to be very influe influential getting him to say in the late 19th-century we should not, by law, separate white people from black people. holland was a real force and ruth bader ginsburg recognize

schools coming together for the public to know that the two schools merging and will be all part of john o'connor beginning negotiation and just an incredibly successful share of vision and purpose and a lot of positive energy and optimism about the future of john o'connor in our view representative of vision 2025 and its future of public education in san francisco unidentified is happening if you're lucky to attend there we're really excited about what is happening at o colonel and only defamates budget services ms. norton. >> the budget and services committee met last wednesday one action item that was the physical ed pending before the board because the staff analysis went deep into the go t c resolution and didn't cover some of the budgeted potential budget impacts of the other exceptions and proposals in related to physical ed in the proposal we decided not to hear that and bring that back to the budget committee for the may 4th meeting with a flushed out analysis of the entire resolution so we'll be at this point hearing that again on may '34 in addition, we had the department budget review

schools coming together for the public to know that the two schools merging and will be all part of john o'connor beginning negotiation and just an incredibly successful share of vision and purpose and a lot of positive energy and optimism about the future of john o'connor in our view representative of vision 2025 and its future of public education in san francisco unidentified is happening if you're lucky to attend there we're really excited about what is happening at o colol and only defamates budget services ms. norton. >> the budget and services committee met last wednesday one action item that was the physical ed pending before the board because the staff analysis went deep into the go t c resolution and didn't cover some of the budgeted potential budget impacts of the other exceptions and proposals in related to physical ed in the proposal we decided not to hear that and bring that back to the budget committee for the may 4th meeting with a flushed out analysis of the entire resolution so we'll be at this point hearing that again on may '34 in addition, we had the department budget review f

they've received the management sxhur of year to achieve dan schooerd the california award to john o'connor school that he the california's pro start spirit award which of the the pro start of beyond the call of duty this is given one and 37 high schools that are teaching the pro start curriculum and one and 75 chief and sxhur over 8 hundred plus students that is incredibly significant and over 5 thousand schools settlement united states with the pro culinary and over 12 hundred thousand students it is supported by the national restaurant by the called restaurant association and foundation and in addition to giving kutsdz to ore students and attentive chiefs we want to thank the chair of argue advisory committee for gary for the golden gate routine association for support of our students we know that san francisco is in particular is world-class foodie city so to have our students now prepared at the highest levels to not only work but thrive if that industry is a particular point of pride and privilege for us this thursday more than one hundred students from the tourism service will be the

john came up to interview with o'connor for the much coveted position of the supreme court clerk. from the chambers of ruth bader ginsburg, the liberal d.c. circuit judge. with ruth's recommendation. to get into a position, the republican appointee's chambers. they are chattering away like old friends and o'connor said did you like working fur judge ginsburg? it was so wonderful to clerk for a judge where you agree with her. on every single thing she said. she told me she said to herself oh my god. what did i just do? so so comfortable had justice o'connor magically made this smart, sophisticated rising young legal star and o'connor said to her how would you feel about working for at judge that you don't always agree with? and not being stupid she said that would be fine too. o'connor hired her on the spot which is a beautiful reflection of o'connor. i don't know if you can teach that. it was something she had when she was very young. ginsburg has figured out something hillary could use, how to relate with younger women. they have made her an internet mean, the product of a lesbia

justice o'connor announces her retirement. george w bush nominates john roberts to be an associate justice. justice months go by, andilliam rehnquist dies george w. bush decides he likes john roberts to nominate him as the chief justice and then he has an associate justice job to fill and nominates initially harriet miers, who is viewed with suspicion as insufficiently conservative by the republicans as she has to be withdrawn because she has insufficient republican support. george bush comes back and nominates samuel alito. the reason these were so controversial, the reason , alito is because it all depends on an important aspect of these domination fights is who the nominee would replace. john roberts ultimately was replacing rehnquist so it was a down the line, strict constructionist conservative replacing another. wasjustice roberts perceived as going the same way whereas in the end, sunil alito was a true conservative, a favorite of the conservative movement to replace o'connor. >> a particular favorite on the social conservatives? >> alito was a fav

and elected robert time it was the site of the slaveholding john tyler as the president of the irish repeal association. asked daniel o'connor to denounce the american abolitionists, and he was brilliant. he told, part of it of course is americanization and sort of hyper nationalism demonstrate loyalty to your adopted country, not criticizing its institution, especially those that threatened the union. but daniel o'connell issued a wonderful letter before his death he told it was not in ireland we learned of this cruelty, not his exact words. so the project of sort of recruiting immigrant amongst the irish failed. with the germans they were a little more successful because a lot of them were freethinking refugees from the 1848 revolution. and a lot of them simply rot that commitment to liberal democracy, human rights, the general revolutionary republican ideas, which they then put into the service after the abolition movement. so the germans come this gymnastic clubs they had, were very important in defending abolitionists and african-americans from attacks but at the abolitionists mobs. the irish star does not end on a bad

o'connor chief justice. she would have been great. she was so fair and widely respected. john robert is a young man so i want to say in probably 40 years. >> host: next call is jay in toledo, ohio. we are listening and you are on with linda hirshman. we are talki about the supreme court. >> caller: thank you. linda, you have such a wonderful sense of humor. it is so great to here that on c-span. my question is what is the link from sandra day o'connor as well as justice ginsburg to the first lady? you talked about nancy reagan passing and the other first ladies you talked about including michele obama. the next question i have is with what is all that is going on, how did both justice ginsburg and sandra day o'connor link up with the wife of antonin scalia? i think the women are always left out which is find of unfortunate. thank you again. >> guest: ruth bader ginsburg was responsible for the supreme court publishing a book about the first justice's wife who was the wife of another supreme court justice. see turned out to be very influential in getting him to say in the late

sandra day o'connor announced her retirement. george w. bush nominates john roberts. a couple of months go by. justice -- chief justice william rehnquist dies and george w. bush decides he likes john roberts well enough to renominate him as the chief justice. then he has an associate justice job to fill. he nominates his white house counsel, harriet miers, who is insufficient by the conservatives. she has to be withdrawn because she has been -- insufficient republican support. then george bush nominated send alito -- samuel alito. the reason in the end roberts is alito controversial and is quite controversial is because of the dynamics of these confirmation fights. who the new nominee replaces ideologically. roberts was replacing rehnquist so it was a relatively down the line, strict constructionist conservative replacing another. that was rehnquist. roberts was perceived as going the same way. in the end; alito was a -- ofuel alito was a favorite the conservatives to replace a swing vote. he was a favorite of social conservatives and economic onservatives in deregula

republican democratic senate in the summer of 2005, the justice sandra day o'connor announces her retirement and george w. bush nominates john roberts to be an associate justice in a couple of months to lie and justice rehnquist dies and george w. bush decides he likes john roberts well enough to nominate him as the chief justice and then he has an associate justice job to go and nominate the white house counsel name. myers who is viewed as a doctrinaire conservative by the republicans so she has to be withdrawn because she has insufficient support and then george bush comes back and nominate samuel alito. the reason that these were so controversial in the end, roberts is not all that controversial but alito is quite controversial is because all depends on these aspects of the confirmations like who's bee ben justice, who the nominee would replace and john roberts ultimately was replacing rehnquist so it was a downed onlindown theline strict constrt conservative replacing another. in other words i was rehnquist and justice roberts was perceived as doing the same way. whereas in the end come samuel alito was a true conservati

o'connor announces her retirement. announces to be in associate justice. william rehnquist dies and george w. bush decides he likes john roberts well enough to renominate him as the chief justice. and then he has an associate justice job to fill, he who ises harriet miers viewed with suspicion as insufficiently conservative by republicans. just be withdrawn because she has insufficient republican support. george was comes back and nominates samuel alito would the reason the desk alito. the reason -- the reason these were so controversial because it all depends on the important aspect of the dynamic of these -- who the nominee would replace. john roberts was replacing rehnquist so it was down the line, strict constructionist, conservative replacing another. justice roberts was perceived as going the same way. where is in the end, alito was a true conservative, a favorite of the movement to replace sandra day o'connor who was a swing cote -- a swing vote. justice alito was a favorite of social conservatives indeed regulatory-- and the . his views and -- down the line thatvor of things conservatives like. >> wherever to s