a brother, and he was asking how john was, and we had word early on the 12th of november that john o'neill was missing and presumed dead. when the general asked about the brother john, how is he, ali sufan choked up and said, john may be dead. the general started tearing up as well. and when we said we needed fhad al clouseau immediately, he picked up the phone, called the control tower in aden, and told them the last yemeni flight was not to leave until fhad clouseau was aboard. so the cooperation after that was absolutely tremendous. we had access to al qaeda card carrying members after that, and it was a veritable treasure trove of information post-9/11. >> another question? >> well, i have several questions. i'll try to limit the ones i have, but just a little bit of background who i am. my name is jamal gunn. my brother, sharon gunn, he was one of the 17 onboard the uss cole, one of the 17 that was killed. and just a little bit of background, what you were saying. this is not a blame game on anyone, but my information about john o'neill is a little by secondhand. he was more in contac