there is one by a john o'sullivan margaret thatcher. did i read you have a statue of her on campus?> yes, we do. the college had a relationship with her. she spoke at the college on several occasions. it just so happened that i knew her for a long time. so i had a crazy idea -- we have a great art department at hillsdale college, including a great painter and a great sculptor who is from an old sculpting family. i saw some of his work and thought there needs to be a great bust of winston churchill. i asked him about it, and he said he would love to. he told me he would just do it. later i found at a cost money. i went to the board and said i would like to do some statues, just a few. not only did they love the idea, but they put money up for four of them on the spot. they talked me into it to modern, recent people who have lived in our recent memories. one is thatcher and one is reagan. i was sort of against that. i think churchill is as modern as she should go. -- as you should go. those people had particular collection -- connections to the college. we settle that up that way. >>