between state and federal authority, elizabeth, council for the second state usual center and john ooesman, professor of law. is it nullification if there's not a national law in this area if it's simply a supreme court decision not to uphold a stay. >> absolutely not. you know if the supreme court strikes down marriage laws across the country and then issues an order, that would be nullification. he way not do that. we have a single local trial, federal court judge whose actions are not binding on the state judiciary. there's two systems, a federal and a state system. neither are binding on each other, unless you get to the top, the pinnacle of both the supreme court of the united states. and the supreme court has not ruled these laws unconstitutional. it's binding precedent on the books saying they are constitutional. >> by voting 7-2 to not intervene, not stop the lower court judges ruling from going effect didn't they decide by not deciding. >> the supreme court has been clear over and over and over again. a decision not to intervene in a case cannot be treated as a decision on the mer