when kirstie duncan's marriage broke up, the first person she called was john oxford. john oxford, by that time, had gotten her grants from the british for her -- and paved the way for a lot of her work. he had a falling out with her, and i think he's still a member of -- he is still a member of the team. but he no longer is -- whatever their relationship is, and as far as i know i have no reason to believe it's anything other than just letters, faxes, telephone calls, i don't believe it's anything else, but it's not what it used to be. there's a sort of chill in their relationship. c-span: before i ask you about the center for disease can control, what is your conclusion up til now about what's going on with all of this? cowe, do we know -- was all this worth it? >> guest: yes, i think so. every time i speak to scientists about the 1918 flu i say are we going to see another flu like this, and they say, yes. you just don't know when because there's no way of predicting what's going to happen, how the flu virus is going to mutate. i think it's definitely important to tr

we'll be helped in answering these questions by art historians like john boardman of the ashmolean museum, oxfordwe're used to looking at greek art this way, in museums, in this case, in a cast gallery, university of cambridge, where they've assembled these figures-- plaster casts of the more important greek and roman statues present in many museums in the world. the art historian and archaeologist try to work out the original settings of these figures-- what was in the artist's mind when he made them and the impact on the society for which they were made. there are several examples here which show the difficulty we have in making this adjustment. this figure, probably made in crete in the seventh century b.c, isn't unlike figures which might have been made in other cultures in antiquity, syria or egypt. only an expert would know the difference. it's not distinctively and obviously greek. there's another problem about it, too, which we have to adjust for. there were traces of color on it, and a duplicate cast has been colored up with what they think to be its original colors. it's a striking diff