ideally, i felt the same way meeting pope john paul ii.- for a private audience but it was in the context of a concert in at castle gandolfo. >> this is about a year later from this... >> i think it was a year before. >> year before? it's right in the same time. >> yes, yes. and in fact i haven't -- this came out of the blue. it was my book about herr mÜller. there was a woman who used to work as a volunteer in his programs back in the 50's or 60's. and her husband was one of karol wojtyla best friends and karol wojtyla of course became pope john paul ii. and when i wrote about the book of herr mÜller she shared it she sent a copy to her, she showed her husband and he said "oh this is great. we've got to invite this guy to this annual thing that we have where we invite people to -- it's an ecumenical words. you know, they'd bring protestant and catholics and people of other religions together for to listen to a concert and there's about 30 or 40 people who get to have what's called a private audience its really a photo op. and a few short

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economic troubles of the soviet economy, and then i think one has to add the powerful witness of pope john paul iiyou simply cannot leave that out in so many of the analyses of the fall of the soviet union, that the role of john paul ii. and the fact that when he made his first pilgrimage to his homeland after being ascending to the papacy in 1978 the first pilgrimmage was 1979 again spontaneous. millions of people turned out, the millions, peaceful gatherings of these enormous crowds, and the regime at that point realized it had lost control. because once people are brave enough and hopeful enough, to take certain risks, then these authoritarian apparatuses are in real trouble. let me very briefly because i want to get all the questions in but i was in poland in 1983 on the john paul ii pilgrimmage. i figured that would be something not to be missed and there was a moment when we were and warsaw, sort of heading across the bridge to where they have put the pope. they ripped up the central square in warsaw so it could not be held there. and, the crowds paused before the singing crowd and there wer

economic troubles of the soviet economy, and then one has to baadd the powerful witness of pope john paul iiu cannot leave that out. so many limit the role of john paul ii, and his first pilgrimage to his homeland after ascending to the papacy in 1978, his first trip home in 1979. spontaneous, many millions turned out peacefully, these enormous crowds. the regime at that point realize they have lost control. once people are brave enough and hopeful enough to take certain risks, then the as authoritarian apparatuses are in real trouble. i was in poland in 1983 on his second pilgrimage. i thought that would be something not to be missed. and there was a moment when we were in warsaw, heading across the bridge to see the pope. they ripped up the central square in warsaw so that it could be held there. the crowd paused, there were flowers embroidered signs, and they were in front of the party building, which were shuttered and completely shut down. the crowd started shouting the solidarity slogan, singing hymns and so forth, and it was such a powerful moment, and it shows you the moral voice col

economic troubles of the soviet economy, and then one has to baadd the powerful witness of pope john paul iirole of john paul ii, and his first pilgrimage to his homeland after ascending to the papacy in 1978, his first trip home in 1979. spontaneous, many millions turned out peacefully, these enormous crowds. the regime at that point realize they have lost control. once people are brave enough and hopeful enough to take certain risks, then the as authoritarian apparatuses are in real trouble. i was in poland in 1983 on his second pilgrimage. i thought that would be something not to be missed. and there was a moment when we were in warsaw, heading across the bridge to see the pope. they ripped up the central square in warsaw so that it could be held there. the crowd paused, there were flowers embroidered signs, and they were in front of the party building, which were shuttered and completely shut down. the crowd started shouting the solidarity slogan, singing hymns and so forth, and it was such a powerful moment, and it shows you the moral voice collectively speaking, and what that could do

they wanted, for example, fdr and americans wanted the arch bishops, the man of future pope, john paul ii part of the government. so that exactly was division, that's what they wanted. and at this point, of course, stalin was prepared and before he agree that is some of those people included into the government. but he tells that while it doesn't really matter much what we're signing, it's their -- it's the balance of forces on the ground that will matter. and from what we know to day from the new findings in the soviet archives, in 1945 or 1946, stalin wasn't absolutely convinced that it should be the one party system in the countries of eastern europe, that there should be absolutely introduction of the communist regime and a so on and so forth. from what we know, he was telling to his communist allies or puppets, whatever in their thoses. they never said this is the only way. it just happened in the soviet union that they were the only ones. but it's not necessarily that it should happen in eastern europe as well. so it wasn't clear also in his mind what would happen. and then it basic

reagan led the world, helped of course by two other great figures, margaret thatcher and pope john paul ii. in the three of them together managed to destroy the great seemingly impregnable soviet empire and reduced soviet communism to rubble. so that was the case of a resurrection of american leadership. it's a matter of opinion, whether they flagged again under bill clinton and then was resurrect it again. and whether it is flagged again under president obama. president obama has had a year or so in office and the feeling in britain, for instance, is that he perhaps talks too much and thinks too little. so you could say there is a flagging of american leadership there, too. however, underneath it all, i don't agree that america is lacking in political or other variety. america is a highly religious society with complete freedom of religion and very flourishing churches and all kinds of religious organizations. and i don't think there's any lack of morality they are or is their lack of moral leadership. i think the american people attend to sometimes they make collective mistakes. but gene

reagan led the world, helped of course by two other great figures, margaret thatcher and pope john paul ii. the three of them together managed to destroyed the seemingly impregnable soviet supire and reduced soviet communism to rubble. heat was the case of a resurrection of american leadership. it is a matter of opinion whether it flag again under bill clinton and was resurrected again and whether it has flagged again under president obama. president obama has had a year or so in office and the feeling ou britain for instance is that pea -- he talks too much and thinks too little. there is a flagging of american leadership they're too. underneath it all i don't agree that america is lacking inre to. underneath it all i don't agree that america is lacking in kintical or other morality. america is a religious society with religious freedom and flourishing churches and religious organizations and i don't think there is any lack of morality there or lack of moral leadership. the american people tend to make collective mistakes but generally speaking they speak out loud and clear on the right s

a real man of hope and change and faith who along with john paul ii made a huge contribution to the worlde country of poland, the shipyard leader. he was in this country just a couple of weeks ago and he said the united states was always the last resort and hope for all other nations. there was the hope whenever something was going wrong, one could count on the united states. today we have lost that hope. i grew up in one of those poor small towns in western pennsylvania that candidate barack obama talked about during the democratic primary. so let me put the words in language that us bitter folks who cling to our guns and religion can understand. [cheers and applause] mr. president, america is the hope and you can keep the change. [cheers and applause] there is no doubt that we face great threats to our future and our enemies who seek to destroy us and that, of course, we have this incredibly exploding government and this debt that is just going to absolutely throttle this country both economically and fiscally. there were huge problems in 2008. they are worse problems today. i said when

reagan led the world, helped, of course, by two other great figures, margaret thatcher and pope john paul ii. and the three of them together managed to destroy the great seemingly impregnable soviet empire and reduced soviet communism to rubble. so that was a case of a resurrection of american leadership. you can -- it's a matter of opinion whether it flagged again under bill clinton and then was resurrected again and whether it has flagged again under president obama. pram's had a year or so in office, and the feeling in britain, for instance, is that he perhaps talks too much and thinks too little. so you could say there is a flagging of american leadership too. however, underneath it all i don't agree that america is lacking in political or other morality. america is a highly religious society with complete freedom of religion and very flourishing churches and all kinds of religious organizations. and i don't think there's any lack of morality there or is there lack of moral leadership. i think the american people tend to sometimes they make collective mistakes, but generally speaking the