supreme court justice john paul stevens. she also helped in the transition -- headed up the role of picking and putting lawyers into the administration, so if you have any be about that, you can see her after the pan. we had a great chance to work together during that time. we were going to have greg craig on the panel tonight. it is tough in the white house counsel's office. he is not yet in witness protection, but he had an unavoidable conflict so he will not be with us this evening, so i regret that. but he is with us in spirit. so let me start. in honor of her role as the former executive director of the american constitution society, i will start with lisa. i want to ask you a two-part question. the first part is, you have been the executive director of the american constitution society and you have now been the white house staff secretary. we know which one is harder. you have to answer which one is more fun. when your done with that, last year i think at this conference, if you ask anyone in the audience, probably eve