john pavel durrell says the broken his silence to american journalist tucker calls and giving his 1st interview in yes, speaking of his office and do by the russian bone onto a pin to explain why he couldn't set up shop in the united states where he says it came under pressure from the i feel like we got too much attention from you know the, the at the i, the security agency is wherever we came to the us. i brought an engineer that is working for telegram and there was an attempt to see quickly hire my engineer behind my back by cyber security officers officers or agents that were trying to persuade him to use certain open source tools that he would then integrate into the telling us code that the mind the same would serve as backdoors would allow the us government to spy on people who use telegram the u. s. government to maybe any other government because of bags. ready as a back door, regardless of who is using it. so many interesting things that he mentioned, the specially the fact that he had his b. i. agents, as he said, show up at his doorstep inquiring about him why he left rus