also joining us is john phenix journalists and international relations expert. who joins us from london. welcome to you both. uh, first i will start with you patrick if i may and we are taking a look at shifa hospital, as you well aware that's being targeted by the regime forces. um, at this point we understand that that has included murdering palestinians. they've arrested some, not only patients, but also people work there like engineers, and at the same time obviously patients alives are at risk, because overall they wanted to evacuate the hospital. i'm not too sure if they're going to be able to do that. uh, and this is all under the understanding that the... think that the hospital is being used for military purposes by hamas? no evidence of that, nothing has been shown yet. uh, what do you think about the fact that the hospital, which is being targeted by israel, uh, and that is something that is banned under international law. yeah, it is, it is pretty amazing. mean, we've seen the systematic targeting of medical facilities, multiple hospitals, in fact in

second guest here uh we have john phoenix joining us, john phoenix is founder of showa.org.uk. john phenix, welcome to the program. all right, uh, let's see what we got over here. you have israel that is based on the several accounts and news outlets, that it wants to forcibly displace palestinians from the ghaza strip, basically to put him um like objects into. egypt from the gaza strip, and then from the occupied territories to jordan, some news outles are saying that, now aside from the fact that forceable displacement is obviously against international law, doesn't this risk inflaming the region already the pushback is there from uh persian gulf arab countries? well look, this is not a new project, this is project actually is a plan by professor dunan "the plan was actually published in 1980, the dinan title his research of the israeli policy in the 80s, one of the plans to remove the palestinians, especially gaza, i mean 1950 the american secretary of state rugers actually offer egypt to to transfer the local population in gaza to sinai.". and was rejected by the uh palestinians. time