he no you know as the man he is sort of a direct connection between john pilger and a son so i'd say. i kind of understand that reaction coming from him coming from john pilger from edward snowden in fact i think we do have a short clip of edward snowden like a full voiced quote as to what he had to say on his twitter feed let's listen to that snowden's tweet images of ecuador's ambassador inviting the secret police into the embassy to drag the publisher of like it or not award winning journalism out of the building we're going to end up in the history books and sanchez critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for press freedom well and going back to because the we can leaks it has a sort of knock this domino effect into place a should say and kind of kick started that big big we general whistleblower movement which was kind of maybe swept under the rug used to be to be swept under the rug and wasn't that rampant before the we can leaks emergence and resurgence and do all these names of edward snowden of chelsea or chelsea manning all of that . huge amount owing to a well known an

the new york john pilger i'll stop you there more from john pilger after this break and we go to world famous tao te st chambers to speak to its founder julian assange lawyer geoffrey robertson q.c. that's all coming up after this break. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either they're already several generations of them so i just got this memo from the circular defense's office that says we're going to attack and destroy the governments and in seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with their money others with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war surely we can risk some discomfort for an easy way for. the business model of facebook is to pressure people to continue communicating through facebook and giving facebook personal information this is what makes facebook a surveillance monster show facebook does not have users facebook has used people that facebook use

implications of the case i'm joined now from sydney in australia by legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger john welcome to going underground you've said the arrest of julian assange by british authorities is a warning to all journalists explain. it's a warning from history. it's a stark warning. anybody watching that shocking image of julian being forced out of the embassy by half a dozen police and pushed into a van will know that if that can happen to somebody for using journalism to let us know the truth that can happen to anybody and it julian. is in but as he's in prison now but if he's on the way to an american prison well the principle is unaltered on the way to an american prison could be a host of other editors if they push their luck catherine vyner of the guardian the editor of the new york times and i don't say that lightly the lead lawyer of the new york times has said it if julian and wiki leaks can be prosecuted so can the editors of those newspapers that carried their work this is on this this is the north assault on journalism but you know it more than that it's an assault

the new york john pilger i'll stop you that more from john pilger after this break and we go to world famous gouty street chambers to speak to its founder julian assange just lawyer geoffrey robertson q.c. that's all coming up after this break. i. join me every thursday on the alex simon schill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. so what he's got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confront cation let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. but ok so what's this if you. use the first one to the finish we just finished from a few. hundreds. let us. just who do. you think it was national guard. to. play to. cover this. from what was your film composers. there are full supports these critics one of the most musical yet you believe because they feel. shamed into life and the smear. you. oppose someone. because of the style if you please. those are the gate hav

john pilger said this on going on the ground this week that he's actually responsible. for many more students than most of the so-called award winning journalist have had in their lifetimes he's revealed he's shown as what's behind the curtain and i've heard at least i think saying that he basically liked the cat in the famous story by h.h. one row saki it was a talking cat who basically listened to everybody what they were talking about and reveal their secrets and told them henri frey had a very bad day he was put to death as we learned to worry about the blows that some worry about people do they reveal what's behind the curtain it's not as we look at his legacy at the moment just think in twenty ten twenty eleven as we look at his legacy the man is not dead he's been arrested just make it clear to people who are just joining us but what's the best thing he's done for humankind could you say for good looking if you are a supporter of him what was the biggest secret he revealed the biggest good deed that he did.

implications of the case i'm joined now from sydney in australia by legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger john welcome to going underground you've said the arrest of julian a songe by british authorities is a warning to all journalists explain it it's a warning from history. it's a stark warning. anybody watching that shocking image of julianne being forced out of the embassy by half a dozen police and pushed into a van will know that if that can happen to somebody for using journalism to let us know the truth that can happen to anybody and if julian. is in braz he's in prison now but if he's on the way to an american prison well the principle is unaltered on the way to an american prison could be a host of other editors if they push their luck catherine via of the guardian the editor of the new york times and i don't say that lightly the lead lawyer of the new york times asserted if julian and wiki leaks can be prosecuted so can the editors of those newspapers that carried their work this is an us this is the north of salt on journalism but you know it more than that it's an assault on c

implications of the case i'm joined now from sydney in australia by legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger john welcome to going underground you've said the arrest of julian assange by british authorities is a warning to all journalists explain it it's a warning from history it's a stop warning. anybody watching that shocking image of julianne being forced out of the embassy by half a dozen police and pushed into a via well know that if that can happen to somebody for using journalism to let us know the truth that can happen to anybody and if julian. is in but as he's in prison now but if he's on the way to an american prison well.

documentary filmmaker john pilger thinks that of all the links that really landed in trouble was the revelation of the true nature of modern war he was speaking to r.t. session with tons of the going underground show here on r t you can watch that full interview tomorrow for now here's a preview there are so many leaks that are related to. telling us about the true nature of war of course what really got julian into trouble and chelsea manning of course was the video of collateral murder and that expressed most graphically what i would describe as the whole homicidal nature of american colonial wars and especially in iraq the three hundred sixty degree view of just kill them all and anybody watching that video. really has to read very little else of the wiki leaks revelations about the nature of american wars because there it is there is a kind of consensual belief i'm trying to think of a polite term for brainwashing frankly that. we don't do these kind of things we are perpetually but nine on our side on the americans a part of that these things simply do not happen they only they

that he chose to do that's why he's an activist that's why we mention him in the same breath as john pilger because he cares about other people. he has some of the same qualities that jeremy cobain is i'm going to ask you what you would say to the british prime minister and what you think about what will happen to julian is here in london and whether indeed as some people say he might be killed what i would say to the british prime minister. i suspect that i mean i could say and i think first i'd say resign but after that open for that i said before you resign think carefully about handing julian assange over to the americans except i think that would be a waste of my breath i think i need to speak directly to the british people i cannot use to raise as a conduit to them caray to resumes beyond redemption and beyond help of any kind certainly for me in my view should tory she's a dyed in the wool posts that tory i have no respect for talk she's also provided oh presided over the greatest disaster is probably in the history of those set to dials and i'm talking about bricks it obviously woul

s more prominent supporters including edward snowden and john pilger the journalist and filmmaker british foreign secretary has spoken out calling a song a saying us. and he is no hero and no one is above the law but we probably will be hearing from the u.k. prime minister to resign may later in the day he was probably grateful as be huge distraction given everything that is going on with their exit at the moment possibly be hearing from the u.s. president was wow this is indeed and huge story we'll bring you all the latest on honesty of course yeah well we heard some reaction coming from the. president as well the president who actually gave. him seven years ago now he called the current ecuadorian president lending maranoa the greatest trader in ecuador in latin american history as he allowed the british police to enter our their embassy in london to arrest a son and earlier we saw some really harsh pictures. being pulled out of the ecuadorian embassy police officers practically dragged him out and shot him into the police and now as we heard from our reporter there standing by the cord

and the son who supported john pilger has called for people to fill the street outside the embassy in protective and show solidarity for a courageous man jump ilja. a big fan of his of course. big enemy to a lot of people as well but no matter what you think about this man holed up you almost custody ok of his own free will but things started to go wrong when the new president of ecuador back in twenty seventy we heard stories much less a tuna sandwich then heard these stories the internet was being cut was much more of a hollow welcome being afforded him there and there was a rumble going around that's why our cameras were there roughly outside bring you these exclusive pictures of the moment there is tucson's again if you're just joining us and you haven't seen your son for a while none of us are really hadn't been out very much of the show himself at the balconies he normally does but not glimpse what a different man forty seven years old sort of say this julian you are looking at all the great considering what you are going through no way to exercise nowhere really to get daylight