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in a few moments a forum on the face of terrorism, including remarks by michael chertoff and john pistolect committees, similar to the one toablished last week investigate the terrorist attacks in benghazi, libya. america'scussion on aging infrastructure. >> a collection of interviews with some of the nation's top storytellers. >> my parents migrated from the south to washington. my mother from georgia, my father from southern virginia. washington was where they met, married, and had me. without the great the gratian, i would not be here. i've lived with that all my life. i was surrounded by the language, the food, the music, the ambitions of the people who had migrated from the south. it has been with me all this time. unique voices from tony five years from our conversations, "sundays at eight." ewings is a reporter from politico. why such a large increase in one year? say is the officials there were many more smaller terrorist attacks. although there were fewer egg experts callm spectacular attacks like that 9/11 attack, there were more smaller-scale bombings or shootings or attacks th

you have john pistole coming, dan gersten, and other senior leaders of the department of homeland security, and you have got a great collection of academics as well. andhat are the core values the core mission of annuitization like this -- of an organization like this? it has four elements that have a critical -- that make it a critical part of the homeland security in a price. first is risk ivan-based thinking. iwill tell you that both when was in public life and private life, many people do not understand risk. people think risk is about elimination of risk, that someone ought to guarantee you that nothing that will ever happen. that kind of thinking often leads to either. disappointed -- to either disappointed expectations. having a risk-based methodology that manages risk, that is able to understand, analyze, and explain how to manage risk and also to allow you to make the trade-offs necessary to achieve risk within a reasonable cost framework, that is the central, if decision makers and the public at large are to have a firm appreciation of what can be cumbersome in the area of homela

john pistol told a senate committee they have been working nonstop to figure out exactly what happened here. he said that inspectors reviewed physical barriers here, electronic access, badging systems and compliance with all tsa directives and sjc did meet the requirements. there is a six-foot fence here and sjc took the extra step of putting barbed wire up. but what he said, basically, no one size fits all. he disagreed with barbara boxer's criticisms. he said it's not enough to fill out a paper and say, check. >> i think you're drawing the wrong conclusion from why as you say clearing. we are assessing the airport security program. if it's done to our standards, then we will say, yes, you're doing it to our standards. it's not a guarantee that nothing bad will ever happen. if that's what you're getting, looking for 100% guarantee, that's not going to happen. >> sjc has six miles of fencing around it and suggestions were made about what could be done for improvements here. but the tsa administrator said that without funding from congress, it's basically just an unfunded mandate. repor

discussion on terrorism featuring former homeland security director michael chertoff, tsa administrator john pistole and a panel of security experts who describe the terrorist threat as it exists today. here in new york city john miller talks about the terrorist mindset when planning an attack. >> we obsess they'll attack the water supply, the food supply, they'll poison the milk in the cows, they'll do a biological -- they sit around up at night while we're tossing and turning thinking about what they're thinking, and they're thinking about i need to kill people. i need to have the streets running with blood, i need people running and screaming, and i need it on tv. i'm not worried about causing a blackout. i need people to die. terrorism is theater. it requires a storyline, it needs a big, dramatic scene, it needs that story arc, and the big scene, the money shot involves blood and bodies, and that's what they're thinking about. they ain't thinking about the grave i have. gravy. >> and deputy police commissioner john miller is part of the panel also discussing developing threats and homeland secur

i think it is a great reflection of the esteem in which his organization is held that you have john pistolecoming, and ther senior leaders of department of homeland security. of course, you have a great collection of academics as well. values and the core the core mission of an organization like this, a school like this? i think it really has four elements that make it a critical part of the homeland security enterprise. first is risk-based thinking. that sounds really easy to say. i will tell you, though, that both and i was in public and private life, many people don't understand risk. is aboute think risk elimination of risk. someone ought to guarantee you that nothing bad will ever happen. that kind of thinking often leads to either very disappointed expectations or foolish and misplaced investment in things that promise to solve all problems. having a risk-based methodology that manages risk, that is able to understand, analyze and explain how to manage risk, and also to allow you to make the trade-offs necessary to achieve risk within a reasonable cost framework, that is essential if

. >> last month former homeland security secretary, tsa administrator john pistol and other security experts discuss terrorist threats in the future of homeland security strategy. here is some now from new york city deputy police commissioner john miller talked about the mind-set of a terrorist who is planning an attack. >> they sit around. the it thinking about, are we still? that require the big, dramatic scene. involves blood. that is what they're thinking about. >> that was just some of the event held last month at the university of southern california. you can watch the entire event tonight at 8:00 eastern. on the next washington journal michael stratford, reporter for inside higher ed weatherizing cost of college and what options are available for students concerning financial aid. then the american association of state colleges and universities will talk about the value of a college education in today's work environment. after that national review writer charles c. w. post discusses his recent article, drop the dropout, which looks as society pushed for to any cause degree. pho

john passtole faced tough questions from barbara boxer. it was a 15-year-old from santa clara who apparently made it over a fence and into the wheel well of a hawaii-bound flight. he survived. pistole says he's been working on this nonstop, but sjc was inspected and found to be in compliance with security requirements. though with 350 airports, there's no one-size-fits-all solution. >> their fencing was in fine shape, but as at least one homeland of security official said, show me a 15-foot fence and i'll show you a 16-foot ladder. there's no perfect solution. we try to buy down risk in a measured fashion that allows us to make sure we're doing everything possible. >> he noted there are a number of opportunities for improving security at u.s. airports, but without money from congress, it would be an unfunded mandate. >>> well, still to come, a mother makes a disturbing discovery in her son's juice box. what exactly is that? >>> and good morning, i'm bob redell. i'll take you live here to oakland, where the warriors will try to force that game seven and why is this place so loud? one of the loudest in the nba. and it's not because people are cheering on that, i know that's for sure.

fresh rifles and new pistols and look like they have been coming straight out of the factory and supplies are getting in here and this is what is worrying to the u.s. secretary of state johnry and let's hear what he has to say about it. >> there is evidence of russians crossing over, trained personnel from chechnya trained in russia who have come across to stir things up, to engage in fighting. we hope the russians would actually engage more proactively in efforts to now try to deescalate, take advantage of the election, build a road forward where ukraine becomes a bridge between the west and the ea east. >> reporter: new president elect in kiev has said they will continue with the military mission here but this is not going to be like the fight we saw at the airport just outside the city at the beginning of the week where they killed and injured scores of the separatist fighters. this is a much more difficult situation. they are in the middle of a million strong city, million people here, too many civilians around this sort of area and the targets that the ukrainian special forces will get for them to use for tactics we saw at the airport and it will be negotiation and t