of afghanistan with stephen hadley, former national security advisor to president bush 43, and john podesta, former chief of staff for president clinton. >> one of the things we have to figure out who is he is and ryan crocker said something very interesting which i think most members of our group would agree, if there is some kind of reconciliation with the taliban, this is not going to be a peace conference around a table, the taliban is a very fragmented group. >> rose: right. we continue the conversation about afghanistan with rajiv chandrasekaran, author of little america, the war within the war for afghanistan. >> for president karzai he sees the principal problem is infiltration of militants of insurgents from pakistan to afghanistan, that is a main problem but many afghans at the local level cast their lot with the taliban because karzai's government is so corrupt and rapacious and abuse people and shake them down for bribes and so u.s. commanders and u.s. diplomats rightly s saw they had to fix the government to move forward here. >> rose: a conversation about the future of afghani

of afghanistan with stephen hadley, former national security advisor to president bush 43, and john podesta, former chief of staff for president clinton. >> one of the things we have to figure out who is he is and ryan crocker said something very interesting which i think most members of our group would agree, if there is some kind of reconciliation with the taliban, this is not going to be a peace conference around a table, the taliban is a very fragmented group. >> rose: right. we continue the conversation about afghanistan with rajiv chandrasekaran, author of little america, the war within the war for afghanistan. >> for president karzai he sees the principal problem is infiltration of militants of insurgents from pakistan to afghanistan, that is a main problem but many afghans at the local level cast their lot with the taliban because karzai's government is so corrupt and rapacious and abuse people and shake them down for bribes and so u.s. commanders and u.s. diplomats rightly s saw they had to fix the government to move forward here. >> rose: a conversation about the future of afghani

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bush and john podesta, bill clinton's chief of staff from 1998 until 2001, and 2011, they chaired a bipartisan committee to review policy towards afghanistan and pakistan, they have published their findings as an essay in foreign affairs magazine, under the title the right way out of afghanistan, i am pleased to have them both at this table. welcome. >> good to have you here. this is important work. so tell me what your marching orders were to yourself, how you wanted to accomplish that objective. >> well, we wanted to have a broad gauge group of people to help in this effort, republicans and democrats, left, right and center and we did. and secondly we said, this is just going to be all internal, and it is an effort to get some new ideas to the administration, but mostly, it was to focus on the political strategy, to the military strategy pretty well developed, the political strategy, not so well developed and that was what the opportunity we thought we could do to do some thinking among this group and come up with some ideas on that. >> rose: so what ideas -- >> it was probably important to

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institute for policy studies, a slew of think tanks heavily tried to the white house, in fact, john podestadirected obama's transition from the office into the white house and helped to craft the stimulus bill. apollo alliance, crafted not only stimulus, but economic institute obama's health care bill. these same progressive organizations have been heavy the at work. i've reviewed thousands of documents of what they're planning for obama's second term and by the way it's not just amnesty, we're talking once these undocumented, what they call undocumented workers in the u.s. are newly legal, the next plan is to then, and use government funds for this, to register nem to vote and obviously if we're nudging closer and closer to a welfare system on which they're dependent they're probably going to vote democrat. >> mike: well, would certainly make a little bit of sense is to it. the book is explosive and get into aspects of it and specifically in job creation according to your book are very different than what most of us think that job creation would be all about, remember when the president sa

. >> stephanie: well, john podesta, by the way, chief of staff.the policies of president clinton. i just wish they would tell the truth. it would give the people the dignity of the call. in advance of this call i did have the opportunity to check in with president clinton. he completely agrees with my analysis of this. once again, it's distracting from his not releasing his taxes or his bain record to make a completely false charge. >> and they're using clinton's image, you know, strategies without contacting him. >> stephanie: right. even these fair and balance news analysis of this stuff, they keep comparing it to politics is tough and okay, that's completely not true. the truth is romney has not released his taxes or his bain records. it's not all the same. this drive me same. [ magical music ] it's another complete lie. okay i'm fine. i'll be fine. see what i don't prepare? all i do is bluster. bluster, filibustering and bluster. i'm prepared. look at all this. what do you mean-- >> what do you mean you didn't prepare. >> stephanie: oh, i was

this is the release of our first big report, and let me thank nnera for kerr and john podesta, in the early days, when the center was operating in my family room, they were constant colleagues who helped me think to the issues about how to set up the center, and we could not be here without their advice. thank you. let me thank donna cooper and adam hirsch for their hard work. this is not easy. the quality of the work is absolutely fantastic, and we are proud to be releasing this debate. let me thank my colleague and o'leary. she was one of the first big hires for the next generation. i said i think i just hired the smartest person i have ever worked with. ann has been a terrific colleague and friend and we are at the beginning of the work we will do for the center. that meet explant what the center is about. it is a partnership of between me, and a business plan in california, and his brother, a nationally known children's advocate and we came together to try to make a new organization that will be focused on the primary issues that will affect the next generation of young americans.

countless high-profile democratic strategists and advisorses, people like john podesta and paul volckerhave unapologetically suggested implementing a vat in the u.s. ezra klein, a writer with a cache among liberal democrats expressed similar views in "the washington post" in 2009. here's a revealing quote from ezra klein's article -- quote -- "tax rates will rise over the next decade. at some point taxes have to come further into line with spending, and that means the direction they will travel is up. but" and this isn't a fact -- "they won't rise within the current system. people don't trust the current system. it feels opaque and unfair, largely because it is. an increase in revenues will have to come alongside a change in the tax system, and the change in the tax system that most economists prefer and that most other countries use is a value-added tax." now, i agree with mr. klein that our current tax system is a mess. while he and other liberals see that as an opportunity to seek larger pots of tax revenue elsewhere, my fellow republicans and i see it as a call to reform the tax cod