i was referring to both the podesta brothers that exposed their shady business dealings in russia. john and tony, the podestas, even the final report of the house intelligence committee mistakenly omits the word "the" from my tweet. >> fair enough. let me ask you about tweets in the first week of october. they go this way. >> yes. >> october 2nd, roger stone writes wednesday, @hillary clinton is done. #wikileaks. let's go to october 3rd. i have total confidence that wicky leaks and my hero julian assange will educate the american people soon. #lockherup. libs thinking assange will stand down are wishful thinking, #lockherup. julian assange will deliver a devastating expose on hillary at the time of his choosing and i stand by my prediction, and the next day is october 7th and then the emails come out. a fair reading of that suggests to me you had some advanced warning of something big coming that had to do with john podesta's emails. how is it that the special counsel wouldn't think that, too? >> well, there's no evidence of that because i had no advanced notice of the contact source or

everybody understands -- john podesta's password was "password." you don't have to be a russian or a macedonian, the average 7-year-old boy can hack into john podesta's account. that's how easy that is. this thing is ridiculous except for the real american lives it's destroying. >> tucker: i think one of my kids may have done that actually. i'm going to check after the show. mark steyn, please stick aroundy the creepy porn lawyer is back. he never really left and mark has been following his career. we will get an update on that with him in just a minute but first, new data show just how overwhelmingly left-wing faculty at colleges are. it's no surprise one professor says that the left is becoming intellectually arrogant. he joins us next. ♪ you made a promise you agreed to never give up to be a decent neighbor to remember the good people who rise with every challenge to remember their strength when you feel tired to serve with grit and grace you made a promise we did too the all-new ram 1500 ♪ ♪ legendary jockey vÍctor espinoza is insatiable when i

everybody understands -- john podesta's password was password.ou don't have to be a russian or a macedonian, the average 7-year-old boy can hack into john podesta's account. that's how easy that is. this thing is ridiculous except for the real american lives it's destroying. >> tucker: i think one of my kids may have done that actually. i'm going to check after the show. mark steyn, please stick around. the creepy lawyer's back. he never really left and mark has been following his career. we will get an update on that with him in just a minute but first, new data show that donna just how overwhelmingly left-wing faculty colleges are. it's no surprise one professor said that the left is becoming intellectually arrogant. he joins us next. ♪ coppertone sport. proven to protect street skaters and freestylers. stops up to 97% uv. lasts through heat. through sweat. coppertone. proven to protect. paywell, esurance makes itnce you dsimple and affordable. in fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of $412. that's auto and home i

stone insists he played no role in the collusion despite the tweet predicting trouble for john podesta. >>> the future relations of the u.s. and north korea very much uncertain at this hour now that president trump has pulled out of the singapore summit. >> many things can happen and a great opportunity lies ahead potentially. i believe that this is a tremendous setback for north korea and indeed a setback for the world. >> issues with the two sides have been building. a senior official tells cnn north koreans were a no show in singapore for preparations for the now canceled summit. that raised alarms with the white house. >> strong language. president trump sending a letter to kim jong-un saying you talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive and powerful that i pray to god they never have to be used. later, if you changed your mind having to do with the summit, don't hesitate to call or write. >> all of this moments after the north koreans announced they destroyed the northern nuclear test side. -- site. will ripley reported to some that president trump pulled out o

february indictment was this glaring omission it didn't talk about the dnc hack or the hack of john podesta'sbody in trump world, roger stone is the most adjacent to that ep side and he was in contact with gus fer 2.0. i think he's a key player in that next likely area of inquiry for robert mueller. >> do we have idea the content of the correspondence between julian assange, wikileaks and roger stone? >> there have been reports about wikileaks and trading favors that's come out in the past. in terms of the julian assange stuff, the "wall street journal" obtained an e-mail saying that roger stone was bragging about the fact that he had been in touch with julian assange, and later roger stone kind of walked that back and said that was said in jest. i think one of the interesting things about this is roger stone has switched his position on this issue on so many different occasions that it's kind of hard to see what is true and what is not and what is roger stone, this trickster of the nixon age trying to get at or trying to hide in this situation. >> do you have a sense where roger stone would

i said "the john podestas" referring to time and tony -- john and tony saying the time in barrel willome. it was published in the panama papers early in 2016 that exposed the shading business dealers in russia. context, paul manafort's business dealings in the ukraine were being fed to the media at the time. i thought it facts that the podesta come forward. i never received any material from wikileaks or assange. i never passed anything on to donald trump. and i never had any contact with the russian state and i received nothing from them, including the allegedly hacked e-mails. this is a left wing conspiracy theory. propup gaited by roby mook, adam schiff, surfer boy eric swalwell. they hide behind the immunity and they run a campaign to smear. >> this isn't just waged by the members of the congress against republicans. there is a criminal component to it. so news reports have said that you were the subject of a fisa warrant. in other words the federal government was reading your e-mail, tapping your phone, following you around, whatever, surveilling you using our intel in law enforc

john podesta.re was information that, an australia diplomat given to the fbi, that an individual in the trump campaign was aware of all of these things, and wikileaks was leaking all of the, i'm sorry, not wikileaks, wikileak was leaking all of the emails. all of that was going on. so at that point what did the fbi do, they sent somebody over to the trump campaign to find out what was happening there. so it is a counter intelligence operation, a very serious effort by russia, to interfere in the american election, not -- trish: you agree the fbi sent an informant into the 2016 trump campaign? >> i don't think there is any doubt about that. that is correct. was ininappropriate? was it a spy? no. it was an individual to talk to a couple folks figure out what was going on. i don't have the inside information. trish: whether it is spy, whether it is informant, that is what you're debating right now? it is not a spire, an informant? i think a spy or informant are sort of the same thing if they have been

that i never predicted the hacking or theft of john podesta's e-mails. but that is omitted from the reports and from the final report. my lawyers had to write a letter asking for a correction. the podestas refers to john and tony. >> laura: adam schiff, he says and complains that you deny everything so you need subpoenas for your tweets and direct twitter messages. he said this. >> what we ought to do is subpoena twitter for direct messages that went to these particular handles or came from roger stone so that we don't have to accept and rely upon the word of roger stone which i think is a hazardous thing to do. one thing that roger stone and the president have in common is a philosophy that you deny everything. that only suckers and losers admit to anything. if you deny it, it didn't happen. >> first of all i testified fully and truthfully to the house intelligence committee and i turned over to them the wikileaks and guccifer direct message exchanges. >> how do you get in touch with guccifer 2.0? >> by going to direct messages. based on the content and

i never predicted the hacking of john podesta's email. i said the podestas, but that's omitted from every reporter and from the final house committee. it refers to two people. john and tony. >> laura: your old friend adam shift said you deny everything so you need subpoenas for your tweets. >> what we ought to do is subpoena twitter for direct messages that went to these particular handles or came from roger stone sowe don't have accept and rely upon the word of roger stone. i think that's a hazardous thing to do. one thing roger stone and the president have in common is a philosophy that you deny everything. that only suckers and losers admit to anything. if you deny, it did not happen. >> i testified fully and truthfully to the house intelligence committee and turned over the wiki leaks direct message exchanges. >> laura: how did you get in touch with them? >> by going to direct messages. based on the context and the timing it was 6 weeks after wiki leak all right published the dnc disclosures. so collusion is impossible. they are benig

our success is a testament to the vision of our funder and from a president, john podesta, a true giant of the progressive cause. i hope you will generally in recognizing him for everything he has done and for everything he will continue to do. john? [laughter] but as we look to it today, we have to remember that if history has taught us anything, it is that. as of great progress will -- is that periods of great progress will face a backlash. we are facing an assault against some of the progress we made since the civil rights era. our values are under attack, not just by the day, but sometimes, by the hour. that is why in many ways, cap's work is more important today than ever before. it is clear that trump and trumpism represent an unprecedented threat to our values and norms. but over the past 15 months, we have seen something equally remarkable take place in response. we have witnessed the birth of an extraordinary grassroots flooded ourt airports, town halls and most importantly, our ballot lock says to protect our very democracy. now, progressives have an incredible opportunity to

kennedy: john podesta was ducking out of the way. you were in an snl sketch where they all cut off their feet? >> if i was in that sketch and don't remember it, i'm going to check into a dementia clinic. i don't think i was in that. kennedy: when you were on snl did you like sketches. >> i tried to get out of sketches. i was on with phil hartman, dana. any sketch i was in i would be the fifth lead. it would be me in a bar saying here's your gin and tonic. if i got written into anything on tuesday night i would go to the writers and say get me out of this. kennedy: that was such a hard space to move into because the people who had been there before you, they were so funny. but that was a role that seemed to be made for you. how much of that did you write? >> after the first couple episodes. franco was my boss. franco was the boss. he was so brutal. he was good. he just broke you down. i remember taking my jokes into al and saying here's what i have written out. he looks the jokes over, then he became a senator. when i look at him. he

as he is inclined to do, preened like a peadock some weeks before the wikileaks release about john podesta's e-mails saying the podestas would be the next target. and so, you know, and he's talked about his and so he shouldn't be so shocked when people ask questions about these relationships. and it was sort of peculiar that he said, yeah, i might have committed some other crimes or i might be indicted for some other crimes but not those crimes, as if that's an exculpatory fact. >> -- what about this, quote unquote spy that the president has alleged infiltrated his campaign and d.o.j. briefings and you talked to sally yates about the president demanding this inquiry. let's watch that. >> what do you make of the president's december manned of the justice department that they investigate -- essentially investigate the investigation of that involves his campaign and perhaps him? >> this has taken the taught since the beginning of his presidency, president trump has not ignored the time honored but for the public to have confidence that the law is not being used in a political way, presidents in

the democratic party had to resign because of that, and we were talking about dnc e-mails and john podesta e-mails right up to the election day. that was a very effective campaign in my view, that the russians did. with respect to crimea, just to be clear, secretary clinton was not part of the administration when vladamir putin annexed crimea. secretary kerry was there. but what you're alluding to there, there should have been greater pushback at the time from the obama administration. i also had left the government. i had left the government right before that happened. but i agree with the caller, that we should have had a more robust response. we eventually got that robust response, but i think it should have happened sooner rather than when it did. >> former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul, author of the book "from cold war to hot peace," and a professor of political science at stanford university. i know you have to catch a flight, so appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. really enjoyed it. get me back again. >> this afternoon here on c-span3, we'll

guest: john podesta stepped down when the news was coming out, we didn't hear much after that. i updated a little on the story legalon foreign lobbying, lobbying, and how they hire embers of both parties to have tremendous influence in this country, russia, ukraine, of nations.p hard with the mueller investigation, i don't have me what urces telling is going on inside the mueller investigation. i think it is difficult to he nd-guess what evidence does and doesn't have and that is something i typically avoid unless i had some special inside information. pretty there has been a tight-lid david baldacci on the are, of what his querys the scope of what he's doing, despite leaks that have come out to be picky as to what i dig into and make it be add hing i can actually something to. host: you wouldn't be willing to stay whether you think he's overstepped his investigative -- guest: i can't say. i have non i have and reason to think he's anything honest actor investigating the president. i see from the questions leaked, questions are correct, may be, may not be, he apparently looking

john podesta. wow, two really great conversations we say here this morning and is now my pleasure i may have a little bit more to say about the cat. one of the most decent, innovative accomplished leaders that i had have the pleasure of working with when i served in the obama administration. rosie, i think there was never a doubt that leon castro would enter public service and would be active themselves. in making our country a better place. he was the youngest member of the san antonio city council. the youngest mayor of the top 50 cities. it was a laboratory of sustainable development. two community engagement. it asked them to come to washington. into server. as secretary of housing and urban development. just think about that. i was only four years ago that the secretary actually cared about affordable housing and development in our country. boy things change. but these days secretary castro is back at it. through an initiative known as opportunity first we are so glad that he could join us her

hasn't asked for john podesta's server, hasn't asked about the payments made to christopher steele andhe payments were hidden. i think there's a lot of collusion on the other side. if you want to look into that, he can. >> kimberly: there is some frustration here but i think in terms of the comments by rudy giuliani that there's a real sense of calm and a practical approach. as a lawyer, former prosecutor, that's what you do. no problem. let's go over it. i think it makes the president look good to show he has a reasonable person trying to work and cooperate with the other side because the president's position has been there is no collusion i did not obstruct and i haven't done anything wrong. frustrated by this. okay. therefore both sides are going to sit down and talk. you can't just put the president of the united states and with unfettered questions with no time frame or no end game et cetera. that would be ridiculous. no lawyer would do that. rudy giuliani has a lot of experience. he has a team he feels comfortable working with. that's also very important. and i think this is a go

john podesta's e-mails were hacked. that should be investigated.an attack on one party is an attack on all parties. i'm all for the investigation to get to the bottom of what russia did. to do that, sometimes you use informants. the issue here is when you put informants into the other administration and you're the obama administration saying we're going to put fbi informants in the trump campaign, why and when did you do it. we have not heard. that's why it's so important for us to get these documents and for both parties to see them to know. the decision made in the trump years -- i mean, in the obama years take this step as putting themselves at risk. it is fraught with risk when you put opponents in a political campaign. we don't want to set precedence. >> and you're criminalizing politics. >> so it gets really cloudy at that point. you may have done it for the purpose of finding out if another country was working -- >> that's correct. >> we're in the land where everything is seen those the rosy glasses called politics. >> i don't buy that we st

ne of the leaked emails from wikileaks was from john podesta -- from clinton to john podesta saying, we have to stop saudi arabia and qatar from funding isis. they were acknowledging that they knew about it and a knology that it was a problem, but weapons were flowing into all cons of radicals in their. so if you -- radicals in there. the whole syrian war has all these radical jihadists. the people that attacked us came from saudi arabia. we had an oral that in them with more bombs. so until we acknowledge that the whole syrian war has all these radical jihadists. there are two sides the war are three sides to the war in the middle east, you are not going to get the agreement. i think was naÃve to pull out of the iran agreement and then the end of think we will be worse off for it. chair: senator udall. senator: thank you secretary pompeo, for being here with us today. zte, the chinese cell phone company, was hit with a $1.9 billion fine for violating u.s. law. he department of defense has warned about security warned about security vulnerability with these phones. soon after zte rep

i didn't like it when john podesta and the podesta is cashed in on their connection with the clintons. i mean, if someone cashing in on their friendship or association with an esteemed political figure is going to throw people in jail just for wanting to cash in on it, then, than premature going to have jails full all over washington and new york. that happens all the time. if there is a pro quo for promised action, someone could be in trouble here. but w00t we are hearing from the council representing the president is the president didn't know who his clients wer. at&t basically used him for a while and said they're not getting anything out of it. >> this isn't about a flashy lawyer. it's not about an adult film actress. >> laura: really? >> it's about a a president who struggles more and more each day whether it's about inauguration crowd size. >> laura: you are on that? >> financial records, health records, whether it's about having an extramarital affair. >> laura: i want to know. >> it's a president who can't tell the truth. it's not about a lawyer. >> laura: are the president's

i mean what were the wikileaks e-mails, what were the hacks of the the dnc and john podesta's e-mailsld trump stood up on a podium onstage waving printouts of these e-mails saying i love wikileaks. he did use them. so it's a little odd for rudy to imply there there was an opportunity to use russian-supplied dirt but the campaign turned its back. in fact, trump completely embraced it beyond the time when it seemed pretty clear the russian government was behind the hacking of these e-mails. >> our thanks to two friends of ours, a law enforcement veteran and a journalism veteran. thank you so much. >>> coming up for us, just last week the president was asked about a possible nobel peace prize. well, fast-forward to tonight, and the question is, is that summit with north korea still going to happen? we'll talk about it right after this. >>> we're really doing well with north korea. kim jong-un was -- he really has been very open, and i think very honorable. we want to thank kim jong-un, who really was excellent to these three incredible people. >> so you heard all that. you remember all t

is there any actual proof that the russian government directed tagging of the gnc and john podesta'smail account? that's beenn redacted too. the report says the fbi agents thatat interviewed him didn't believe he was lying, but wait. he pleaded guilty to lying to those agents in his life was destroyed, he sold his house to raise money for his legal defense. what's going on here? we don't know. that information was redacted. why were all of these reductions made? wekn don't know that, we asked,o one would tell us. then there is the pfizer application to spy on trump campaign aide carter page, that hasn't been released either even though we have ample reason to believe the application may have been fundamentally illegitimate based on discredited partisan hearsay. jim comey denies this, he'she denied it repeatedly on his book tour. just the other day he noted there is no way to check because it's classified. the joke is on us except it's not funny. almost nobody trusts the government anymore andgo that's one thing both sides can agree on. there's only one way to fix that. sunlight. stop

stone denied he had any foreknowledge wikileaks would release hacked e-mails related to john podesta,er, but that certainly drew a lot of public scrutiny. we know mueller has been asking about that as well and may have put him on the radar in the first place. >> what has stone said about all of this? >> stone has denied he had anything to do with the russian collusion, and he and his allies now believe essentially this is a witch-hunt to try to pin him on anything and bring down a long-time ally of the president. i will read a portion of the statement stone gave me where he said the special counsel now seems to be combing through every molecule of my existence including my personal life and business affairs to conjure up some offense to charge me with, either to silence me or induce me to testify against the president. stone insists he will never turn against for the president. as for the special counsel's team, they're not commenting. >> thanks very much. a lot more ahead including the briefing on the hill about the investigation. also, north korea responds to president trump calling

is there any actual proof that the russian government directed hacking of the dnc and john podesta'smail account? if it is theirs that's been redacted too. reports say the fbi agents who interviewed mike flynn didn't believe he was lying, but wait, mike flynn pleaded guilty to lying to those agents and his life was destroyed as a result. he sold his house to raise money for his legal defense. so what's going on here? we don't know. that information was redacted. why were all these reactions may? we don't even know that. we asked, no one would tell us. and then there's the fisa application to spy on trump campaign aide carter page that hasn't been released either. we have ample reason to believe the application may have fundamentally illegitimate based heavily on discredited partisan hearsay, the dossier. jim comey denies this of course. he has denied it repeatedly on his book tour. just the other day, he noted, smiling faintly as he said it, that there's no way to check really because it's classified. the joke is on us, except is not funny. almost nobody trusts the government anymore

i think a lot of these companie companies, across john podesta off their check and say who do we need to write this to? >> laura: he is smearing the wrong michael cohen? throwing the cell at this seat of michael cohen, trump's personal attorney, and there are other michael cohens. it's like a basic first year law student. it wouldn't allow that mistake tapping. you would be fired as an associate at the firm i used to work for if you made that mistake and this guy is dropping stuff all over television bragging. we have to play the sound bite because byron raised it. it's just so funny. he was bragging about his media strategy. this is fun to watch. let's do it. >> i have to tell you this. i'm going to touch on this. there's been a lot of criticism lately about, not a lot, there's been some criticism about how her meaty strategy and how often i am on cnn at half my bed on your show another networks. it's all a bunch of nonsense because here's the bottom line, anderson. it's working. okay. it's working in spades, and one of the reasons and one of the ways it's working is because we are s

having he has not yet charged in this act of the dnc hack or john podesta e-mails and the weather published. but it's inconceivable to me that he would leave that stalin turned. when something is done i'm in may involve some of the more specific cyber tools. mary beth: david hick most of the covert action, dod with kinetics and military activities being on the table. couple of notes. the problem of figuring out the origin of any of these activities argues in moves from a law-enforcement function because the evidentiary basis of the actual actor and motivation is extremely difficult. you can move into military base operations as rental attorney -- -- as retaliatory measures where law enforcement may not be as appropriate. one of the big problems in the intelligence community less so, particularly in the military, to truly difficult for the realm of cyberspace to apply, and david have talked about this -- principles of proportionality as well as secondary tertiary effects on individuals who may be part of the network. mitigating the impact of weather -- of whatever you may do on the innocence

. >> when roger stove said weeks before john podesta's e-mails were hacked he said this guy is aboutpend his time in the barrel. he never explained except he knew it was coming. > he's trying to say that wasn't necessarily insider knowledge, just about stuff out there publicly. roger stone to me suffers a little bit from this effort that he's sort of endeavored over the decades to build himself up. >> he wants people to think he's doing. >> now people believe him. >> he is a cloak and dagger guy. i've been in politics a long time. there's people out there like him that you don't know whether threw did it or not. it's better to be feared than loved. up next, from the stormy daniels case to the russian probe, giuliani has had a rocky start as the newest member and the top dog in the trump legal dog. is this a way to take the heat away from the boss? it's working. rudy's getting all the spotlight. do you think trump likes that? we'll see. you're watching "hardball." ♪ it's a lot easier to make decisions when you know what comes next. if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we mak

what he has not prosecuted is anyone involved in the hacking, the hacking of john podesta's e-mails, the hacking of the dnc e-mails, democratic congressional campaign e-mails. that case has been investigated, and the interesting part about that case is that roger stone appears to be a target as well. in the other cases there's never been a nexus, never been a connection between the russians and the trump campaign. roger stone is potentially -- potentially, he denies it, a connection between the efforts to help trump and the trump campaign. and that's something to keep an eye on in this investigation. >> that's a good point. katelyn, dana bash is doing some more excellent reporting for us. she now tells us that rudy giuliani says that the president's legal team wants to know as much as they possibly can to the extent that they want to make it available about this confidential source that the fbi had wanting to learn about russian involvement in the u.s. presidential election. and giuliani tells cnn that knowing about this confidential source is actually a prerequisite for any intervie

john podesta and had you a chief of staff named erskine bowles who kept the president focuseding likey to imagine the word focused in a sentence with donald trump. that's not going to happen. so far, you know kelly has mismanaged the whole thing. >> it appears that he is weakened as chief of staff. despite the president coming out and saying that singing his praises earlier. the two of them side by side on an airport tarmac there. who do you think that has the best chance of controlling this president? does anybody? you've said kelly can't do it. when he was coming into the position as chief of staff, i know we were all singing his praises, because of what his tenure brought leading into the white house. >> well look, it may well be mission impossible. i mean i think that from day one we all knew that it was, it would be hard for any chief of staff to manage donald trump and kelly hasn't bothered to try. quite frankly. it's become a really bad marriage at this point. and both parties seem to want to just muddle through. donald trump is tired of kelly. and has this dilution that he'll

we move from there to the witch hunt, john podesta in washington, d.c., the servers that weren't handed and we end up here with this call on the justice department. what do you make of that? the degree to which the president is driving policy, driving what we're talking about here. how effective is that to have the president scuttling things as he is? >> yeah. he certainly has a range of grievances here that he likes to bring up from time to time. and in this case, look. i do think there are a couple of reasonable questions. one of the real challenges of what speaker quinn just said is if it is so dangerous to leak information about this fbi informant based in london that was reported about in the last couple of days. why were the circumstances around that leak to "the new york times" or "the washington post"? you can't have it both ways. you can't -- and now the identity of this informant is fairly well known on social media. it's not being confirmed by journalists. it's clear who the individual is. i think my sense is now that this is about the ig investigation which is what we hear i

for sure that relate to the hacking of the democratic party's e-mail systems and the hacking of john podesta's e-mail systems. >> expect it in the next round. >> the question is when. we don't know how many, of whom, how far reaching. we don't know a lot of things about it. but we know it's going to happen. and when you think about that piece of the puzzle, which is the -- you know, he's done a little bit on the social media piece and that influence. but when you think about the breaking and entering part of it, then you think about where those two things come together, cambridge analytica is at the heart of the data story, the influence story, the media story, and possibly also some of the breaking and entering story. so, yes, of course i think it's incontrovertibly obvious that given how far-reaching the mueller probe is and how many places it has its tentacles that cambridge analytica is almost too obvious to mention as something the mueller probe would want to be looking at. i had lunch today with chris christie, who is among other things an excellent attorney and was a u.s. attorney and s

it will soon be john podesta's time in the barrel right before -- about a month before those wikileaks e-mails from podesta's e-mails started coming out. roger stone, as far as we know, has not been interviewed yet by special counsel. there are few others that have not been interviewed by the special counsel. the president being one, don jr. being another. i don't believe jared kushner has been interviewed by the special counsel. betsy, who else would you be looking at to be called in before this investigation is over? >> that's a good question. one person i can tell you who has not been interviewed is the vice president. even though he seemed to be adjacent to many of the big decisions that mueller's interested in, especially the question of james comey's firing which is related to these broader obstruction of justice issues. my understanding is that the vice president has not yet been brought in by mueller's team. one person who has been brought in though who's very close to those decisions is don mcghan. "the washington post" reports that he's been interviewed at least twice by the

missing so far the russian campaign i think he is not yet charged in respective the dnc hack or the john podesta e-mails in the way they were published on wikileaks but it is inconceivable to me that he believes he would be that stone unturned and when something is done there i would imagine it may involve some of the more specific one for cement cyber tools. >> thank you, mary beth. >> three things to add. david hit most of the covert action intelligent and dod with kinetics and military activities been on the table. a couple of notes. the problem of figuring out the origin of any of these activities often argues that it moves from a law enforcement function the cause the evidentiary base of the actual actor and motivations is extremely difficult so that is where you can move into covert action or intelligent space or even military base operation as retaliatory measures or signals anywhere law enforcement at may not be appropriate. one of the problems however is in the intelligence community less so but particularly in the military community is extremely difficult in the realm of cyberspace to

i asked john podesta to kpesk specifically handle the controversy and that helped too i think. >> as we look at the video replaying it now of the president and his chief of staff boarding air force one, i think a lot of us were struck over the last couple hours he had no idea that rudy giuliani was about to go on tv and it would blow this thing up. the president's reblowing it up again today. should there have been, in your view, more coordination for moving forward more coordination between the president's legal team and the bhous? because he has sara sanders that comes out says there's a law, not up to me, up to the legal team, i'm not nofld have i don't handle it. is that the right way to handle it? >> the answer is yes and yes on the first two. >> sorry. >> that's fine, you're the host. yes and yes, there needs to be more coordination, there has to be. and that's what i was alluding to with our experience in the white house. and president clinton would get an mated from time to time, as you well remember and you're other panelists do too. but he had a certain discipline about him

guest: john podesta stepped down when the news was coming out, we didn't hear much after that.pdated a little on the story legalon foreign lobbying, lobbying, and how they hire embers of both parties to have tremendous influence in this country, russia, ukraine, of nations.p hard with the mueller investigation, i don't have me what urces telling is going on inside the mueller investigation. i think it is difficult to he nd-guess what evidence does and doesn't have and that is something i typically avoid unless i had some special inside information. pretty there has been a tight-lid david baldacci on the are, of what his querys the scope of what he's doing, despite leaks that have come out to be picky as to what i dig into and make it be add hing i can actually something to. host: you wouldn't be willing to stay whether you think he's overstepped his investigative -- guest: i can't say. i have non i have and reason to think he's anything honest actor investigating the president. i see from the questions leaked, questions are correct, may be, may not be, he apparently looking at

john podesta is a true giant of the progressive cause and i hope you'll join me in recognizing him for everything he's done and for all he'll continue to do. john? [ applause ] [ applause ] >> but as we look to today, we have to remember that if history has taught us anything, it is that periods of great progress will provoke backlash amongst those who wish to remain in the past. we're now facing an assault, not just against the progress we made during the obama administration, but against some of the progress we've made since the civil rights era. it feels like our values are under attack not just by the day, but sometimes by the hour. that's why in many ways c.a.p.'s work is more important today than ever before. it's clear that trump and trumpism represent an unprecedented threat to our values and our norms, but over the past 15 months we've seen something equally remarkable take place in response. we've witnessed the birth of an extraordinary grassroots movement that's flooded our airports, our town halls and most importantly, our ballot boxes to protect our very democracy. now pro

john podesta is a true giant of the progressive cause and i hope you'll join me in recognizing him for everything he's done and for all he'll continue to do. john? [ applause ] [ applause ] >> but as we look to today, we have to remember that if history has taught us anything, it is that periods of great progress will provoke backlash amongst those who wish to remain in the past. we're now facing an assault, not just against the progress we made during the obama administration, but against some of the progress we've made since the civil rights era. it feels like our values are under attack not just by the day, but sometimes by the hour. that's why in many ways c.a.p.'s work is more important today than ever before. it's clear that trump and trumpism represent an unprecedented threat to our values and our norms, but over the past 15 months we've seen something equally remarkable take place in response. we've witnessed the birth of an extraordinary grassroots movement that's flooded our airports, our town halls and most importantly, our ballot boxes to protect our very democracy. now pro

hard.s really as john and i report in the people, john top podesta and monk didn't always get along. stopped talking to her campaign manager at wob point. freshly reported in our book. there was a huge problem who she terms of listens to and what the pecking and internal factions fighting, this all led to her loss. ahead.o guest: to amie's point. this become is essentially the on how to blow a presidential campaign. to amie's point, a ton of in-fighting which isn't helpful. the end of the day comes back to how the date and candidate is making decisions and what are things informing he decisions who are people informing the decisions and ultimately this is a candidate that should have had every in the world in terms she had to oney, pick a strategist to get through the emocratic primary and general election. he was coming off president obama's presidency, the economy fnot doing gang buster, it was doing reasonably well and her prez sessor was popular, he was the wife of a former president, who even people who don't like him give him credit as campaigner. things, she by the way, ran fo

john podesta came out russia hacked their server, to this day we haven't, server know where the is aten't done a forensic study. say that the, in my opinion, russia never hacked server. and i would like proof of that. have conflicts of interest uelleral, rosenstein and others. hope it continues. host: again, 202-748-8000 for emocrats to call on open phones. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. texas, republican line, good morning, you are next. hey, i just got a small problem, a small comment with netflix thing and this kind of stuff. i wish president and secretary of states, once they are done go the civilian world and retire. you don't see the bush's, even bush's, they don't go on t.v. every day and preach about stuff. time is over, ur go back and enjoy your life and stay out of the current political climate. you for your time. host: do you think president presence made a big since leaving the office? he's hung up. denver, colorado, democrat's line. hi. caller: hi, dave over in denver, like to talk about the school shootings. i mean, they have been blamed on everyt