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for it. >> it's still a shame, truly a shame that they're using that as a hostage to this. >> john podesta is calling on progressives to pare back their am missions, writing, the political reality is clear, we will not secure the full $3.5 trillion. and podesta is warning centrists, you're either gecting both or neither. the prospect of neither is unconscionable. >> it's politically catastrophic if we don't move forward with these bills at this time. >>> joining me is the democratic senator from new jersey, cory booker. senator booker, welcome back to "meet the press." >> it's great to be back on. >> good to have you in person. we're getting there. john podesta earlier this week wrote a memo -- basically sending a memo to both sides of this argument, moderates and progressives, you're going to have to come together. to progressives you'll going to have to face the reality that $3.5 trillion has to be pared back. do you concur? >> first of all, i don't like how this has been compared, progressives versus moderates. this is joe biden's bill. as he said in the oval office, i've never been a p

joi joining us now is john podesta, founder of center for american progress, one of the leading voices warning democrats of the consequences of failure. so, first of all, what do you make of the standoff that the white house is -- or the standoffishness the white house has about the scope of the president's involvement in these negotiations? should he be doing more? is this the right strategy? >> well, he had a series of meetings on last thursday and -- and -- and into friday. meeting with -- with different elements of the democratic caucus to try to forge an agreement. i think the reporting you just heard was exactly right. i think that if thursday comes and there's no agreement from -- particularly, from senators manchin and sinema, that the progressive caucus will hold firm. i would note that speaker pelosi said over the weekend she won't bring a bill to the floor unless it has the votes to pass. so i -- i think we're in one of those washington perils of pauline moments where you have the continuing resolution, the debt limit, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and the reconciliati

john podesta, founder and chair for the board of directors for the senty for american progress isn'ta memo to every democrat of congress on wednesday. the message was to scale down the $3.5 trillion plan while pointing out mod rats who are only trying to pass a small bill, saying you need both bills or neither, and neither is unconscionable. they there's a growing fear among democrats if nothing is passed, the party circulate have little to run on in midterm elections. what are the plans if it all falls apart, particularly if it falls apart in a particular tag. the democrats control. i know the margins narrow, but they control it all. if they can't get it done, what happens next year? >> so it would be very bad clearly. i think it's extraordinarily possible that neither of these bills get passed. i think that's in the realm of possibility. john podesta's comment is interesting, but not more interesting than joe manchin who said he won't vote for $3.5 trillion. so that's the dynamic we're looking at is what will joe manchin and kyrsten sinema and the house votes for, that lines us wit

. >> it's a shame, truly a shame that they're using this as a hostage -- >> john podesta is calling onck their am missions, writing, the political reality is clear, we will not secure the full $3.5 trillion. warning the prospect of neither is unconscionable. >> it's politically catastrophic if we don't move forward with these bills at this time. >>> joining■ç me is the democrac senator from new jersey, cory booker. >> good to be back on. >> good to have you in person. we're getting there. john podesta earlier this yeek wrote a memo -- basically sending a memo to both sides of this argument, moderates and progressives, you're going to have to come together. to progressives you'll going to have to face the reality that $3.5 trillion has to be paired &q-ì(lc% >> this is joe biden's bill. as he said in the oval office, i've never been a progressive. this is about seizing what is a once-in-a-generation opportunity, like those who built the canals and the railroads, like those that built the incredible eisenhower highway act. so how this plays out, yeah, this is washington. i'm sure there's

john podesta earlier this yeek wrote a memo -- basically sending a memo to both sides of this argumentives, you're going to have to come together. to progressives you'll going to have to face the reality that $3.5 trillion has to be paired &q-ì(lc% >> this is joe biden's bill. as he said in the oval office, i've never been a progressive. this is about seizing what is a once-in-a-generation opportunity, like those who built the canals and the railroads, like those that built the incredible eisenhower highway act. so how this plays out, yeah, this is washington. i'm sure there's going to be some kind of compromise, but to me, the compromise,■ç repairing our electrical grid or to compromise ending, being the only nation on the planet earth of industrial nations that doesn't have paid family leave, that has its costs and it's going to make america lose the boldness of the possibility of jumping forward as a nation. >> is there a sense here though that maybe -- there's an old saying our parents used to say, your eyes are bigger than your stomach. were the political eyes bigger than the poli

joining now now is john bow podesta. , thanks for being with us this morning. >> good to be with you, free anna. >> your message is essentially, look, you need to dial it back a bit. and you're saying that's coming from someone who wants to see the full -- the full package here or even more. but what do you think they should dial it back to? >> well, look, i think that is a number they have to find common ground on. we're sitting with a 50/50 senate with only a three-vote margin, three votes to spare in the house. and, you know, time is up. it is time to do both these bills. they have to be done together. they have to move forward. they have to find a number. it's going to be lower than $3.5 trillion. i think it was made clear at the meetings that the president had at the white house this week. so sell ttle on a number. they seemed to settle on the structure for the tax equity package they are moving forward to pay for this package. so it actually is one way to think about this is it's a zero cost bill. because it's fully

it has a new lobbyist tony podesta yes john podesta as brothers.e worried about security and privacy issues. i think number one it's generally disorganized and chaotic right now i think last week stands as a testament to incompetence there being overwhelmed by circumstances. many of it is their woke rhetoric is crashing into real-world situations it's not working out for them. part of that is what you pointed to, let's not kid ourselves here. if you look at wall street, all of those industries and financial industries they are enormous and big supporters of the democratic party and joe biden for the generally lands him in everything except maybe the capitol gains tax and carried interest in a couple other things. in terms of social issues and the like most certainly for their having influence on this administration for the telling them to back off. part of the problem we are having here is this insane allergy to anything trumpet with the biden administration bred base of the trumped and it doesn't matter if it's a good idea, if prompted they'll do

with that warning from john podesta, strong democrat. austan what are the two best things?e length of our segment. i could go on at some length. if i have to pick two for me the number one thing is the expansion of education to make higher education more affordable. invest in schools and teachers and the reducing the cost of healthcare for not just parents but for senior citizens as well. >> dana: all right. i will come back. steve, what are the two worst things. >> not too surprising austan likes the more money for higher education. he is a college professor. the two worst things are number one, the fact that this is going to massively increase our debt and taxes at a time when we just can't afford to do this as a nation. we have a $20 trillion debt already. the second thing that worries me about is doubling the irs budget. we learned under the obama administration that they weaponized the irs and used it to go after conservative groups and donors. that's exactly what will happen if they have 5,000 more irs agents. >> dana: one of the things i was wondering about. a child

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. >> but on that note, john podesta who worked in the clinton white house sent a memo to every democratic member of congress yesterday, obtained by the "new york times," he writes in part the historical trend makes it clear the democrats will face severe head winds next november but nothing will guarantee a political reckoning faster than if the democrats fail to pass anything. you're in touch with a lot of people working on these democratic house races, democratic senate races. is bill's plan an option? do they need to pass something? >> they need to pass something. i was here at this table a week or so ago saying it would be oblivion if they didn't. what would you run on if you have a democratic president, house and senate, and you can't pass a bill to help the american people, how do you go back and argue to vote for democrats? >> how about solving the pandemic and having a strong economy? honestly? >> what do you think? >> the thing we're seeing about the moderate/progressive divide is a lot of moderates are not necessarily in vulnerable seats. stephanie murphy from florida is but the

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, a pedophilia ring under this pizza place in dc frequented by powerful politicians linked to john podesta'semails being leaked in which they talk about pizza because my sense is if you have political volunteers you buy them a lot of pizza but people on the internet, he is saying pizza so much we know it is code for pedophilia sex with children and that is what they are talking about. the internet allows that idea. what it allows is one person or group of people have an idea and it might be a joke, just they are playing a joke on somebody but they started into the internet which can spread so rapidly that everyone who has an inclination can be part of that community and it spreads to the point that less than a month later, on november 3rd, outside of a 6 block area around the pizza place no one ever heard of this place but it turns into the idea all these businesses are linked and there's this pedophilia symbolism showing that and underground tunnels and all of this put together and children engages underground so powerful politicians and the elite can have sex with children and it gets to a

frequented by powerful politicians, particularly democrats, link to john podesta is emails being leaked in which they talk about pizza. because my sense is if you have a bunch of political volunteers, you buy them a lot of pizza, people on internet going through he's same pizza so much you know that pizza is code for pedophilia sex with children. that's what they're talking about. so the internet allows that idea which is what it allows is one person or group of people have an idea and that might be a joke. like it might be just, like a playing a joke on somebody but they started in the internet which now can spread so rapidly that everyone who has an inclination about that or an interest in that cannot be part of that community and it spreadd to the point that again less than a month later on november third, my guess is outside of a six block area at, around the pizza place come no one ever heard of this place, right? but it turns into the psyche that all the spaces are linked and there's this symbolism that showing that and there's underground tunnels on all this is put together as us

far be it for me too argue about negotiating tactics with john podesta, i mean, he knows a lot aboutill a matter of negotiation and he's talking to the president i think they will be able to sort out something, but i don't know for sure. neil: if we don't get to a vote on monday, for the infrastructure only measure, a lot of people say things blow up from there that it's next to impossible man to address the more expensive-- what the progressives one in the party and this could boomerang on democrats. what do you think? >> i mean, if there are dangerous for things like that. the public positions that everyone takes are different from forced to would you vote for this bill with the alternative is you will never get it and we have seen that over the years in the budget negotiations many times. both sides will say i will never vote for a before b or i will never vote for c, but when it comes down to it if they have to they will, so i think nancy pelosi is playing her cards close to the vest as you would expect. this is playing out exactly like i don't know if it's the nba game where the

. >> john podesta and chair director, every democratic member of congress on wednesday messaged to progressives trying to pass the smaller infrastructure bill. he wrote, you are either get both bills nor neither. the prospect of neither is unconscionable. by the way, i am going to say, i keep talking about progress pro will have to get out with the rest. let's be clear here, they are operating in bad faith. they know they are not part of this and they know it's never going to happen. they are playing for their district at home and they are playing right into the republicans' hands. >> the real question that i have for congresswoman jayapal. can you talk about what is your must-dos and can it get done by sunday ormond where the speakers really trying to have that deadline set. >> well, anna, i think we have laid out what we have want. now what we need to hear back and this is the president's message to the moderate group that he met with but he told us this is what he asked for. they need to come up with what they want and that negotiations start. so far we have gone through the entire process i

joe biden loosening sanctions on huawei, huawei now has new lobbyist tony positive testifieda john podestae are national security issues. >> absolutely, i will tell you a couple things number one, biden administration is just generally disorganized chaotic right now last week testament in overwhelmed by circumstances, many of it is, you know woke rhetoric crashing into real world situations not working out for them, parted of it i think what you pointing to that is let's not kid ourselves here, when you look at wall street, big -- -- all those industries financial industries they are enormous big supporters of democratic party of joe biden, they generally align on everything maybe capital gain capital gain tax cared interest but in terms of social issues the like most certainly and having influence on this administration telling them to back off part of the problem here is this insane to in this case trump and biden administration if trump did it doesn't matter it was a good idea if trump did it they are going to do opposite the same playing out in china if trump wassive to in one way they

john podesta worked in the obama white house.r of congress, unless you find unity as the progressives pass something we are going to lose our majorities in the house and the senate. so the choice is up to you. ainsley: nancy wanted to have the vote today she doesn't have the vote. she needs to pass it they willable on the phone all week trying to figure out how they can get this thing through. steve: let's make a deal. will: i think they are planning to lose it in the house and the senate regardless of this. shove through as quickly as you can. everything else in the administration has gone absolutely to crisis. steve: we will see if the moderate democrats then ultimately stop it. otherwise, it would probably go through. all right, it is 25 minutes after the top of the hour. ashley is joining us live in the studios. ashley: good morning, guys. we have good and bad stuff in this get to this first. at least six people killed and another 43 further shootings across chicago over the weekend. those hurt include a chicago police office