john podhoretz: can i make a contrary argument?aily news was a disaster for sanders if you assume the sanders voter cares about issues. this is the reverse mere image of trump. they are not groaning on issues, they are voting on one thing or two things, feelings screwed, pitchforking the banks. they say he does not know anything, just blabbing about nothing, and yet, here sanders is having won six straight, one of primary in wisconsin. mark: in the culture of the new york media, maybe for sanders voters, hillary supporters also -- it creates a fire that keeps him from breaking through. john podhoretz: that is the question, how stoked are hillary supporters anywhere? her voters in the exit poll in wisconsin said 13% were enthusiastic about her possibility of being president, 13%. i don't think there is stoking, i don't know they are stoked. that is the question. mark: you are out 3000 miles, you hillary clinton in the state. it is now a decade since she was elected statewide, elected twice statewide as senator and 2006. does she sti

emily: he is a -- john podhoretz: he is a german folk.ll not get you the subway. -- germophobe. john: adam mcgarity, please come back. john, please stay here. ♪ john: what alex wagner learned from the returning. ♪ ♪ john: last that was the finale of the nomination fight on the circus. we do this with bloomberg politics. we will be taking a break before coming back on the summer before the convention. for this episode we brought alex wagner and mark mckinnon. talk to the chance to bernie sanders supporters we are now calling naturally the burning badgers. bernie badgers. badgers are at the headquarters in wisconsin. this is the installation of the sanders campaign. totally grassroots, young, fired up idealistic people. it is a movement. this room undecided? ok, i am kidding. i figured. how are you feeling about tuesday? >> feeling better today. alex: wisconsin is a big deal because it is a primary states, it could play a pivotal role. >> wisconsin is not only the birth of the progressive movement, but the birth of mccarthyism. it is not th

mark: back with the bicoastal genius, adam nagourney of the "new york times," joining us, and john podhoretz and followers of his know, he is against donald trump. what gives you the most hope? john p: it is procedural, ted cruz winning all these backdoor deals and out winning trump on the delegate selection, is perfectly legitimate, if you are watching just the outward campaign. you would say, cruz has done absolutely nothing to build on his victory in wisconsin. in fact, his numbers in new york seem to be going down and that about. the polling in these subsequent states is not looking good for cruz, and looking pretty good for trump. so that stop trump movement is entirely a backdoor movement until may, when we shift back to the midwest and to the west for the last states. mark: adam, the california primaries six weeks away. is there any feeling out there, it has been some candidate activity, but -- adam: as you know, this is not a state where you get primaries a lot. they are staying at the tail end of everything. but there is a lot of interest and excitement. i have seen sanders proteste

john podhoretz in the "new york post," if trump wins the primary next week in the hoosier state, cruz almost certainly be the republic

john podhoretz in the "new york post," if trump wins the primary next week in the hoosier state, cruz is toast and trump will almost certainly be the republican nominee. the "national journal's" josh trauthauer says if cruz wins indiana taking most of its delegates the path for trump to win 1,237 delegates is very narrow." make no mistake, this will not be easy for ted cruz. he's down in the latest indiana poll by a few points. there part of the electorate is angry about lost jobs and a troubled economy. that's a trump strength. and there's no organized network of conservative radio lined up against trump like it was in wisconsin, where cruz managed to do, well, anything. so for cruz it won't be easy. but the analysts seem to believe it's all that's left for the not trump crowd to stop trump. john mccormick writes today in "the weekly standard" "if undecided voters and some kasich voters break toward cruz, the texas senator could take indiana." remember, kasich has pulled out of indiana, closed his offices in indiana. he is not campaigning in indiana in his crasich alliance with cruz.