john williams, who did little movies again, "star wars," "jaws," "et." >> "superman," "harry potter."well john, i reached out to john years ago because i just wanted to talk to him about how he composed because i believe there was some kind of connection between how he orchestrates with how i can possibly conduct a basketball game and putting guys in the right position. there's something to be learned from that. and so he and i -- >> jimmy: would you just cold call people? >> i just cold called him, yeah. >> jimmy: and just say hey, like who else did you call? did you just call -- >> people at random all the time. oprah and just reaching out to people. >> jimmy: you call oprah and go hey? >> well, yeah. if you want to learn something, best way to learn is reach out and ask. john was just unbelievable and teaching me how to put things in certain areas and how he went about doing it. so we already had that relationship. and then, i said hey i made -- i wrote a short film. i would love for you to score it. and john, if you ever heard him speak, i mean he's just so calm. and he's just lik