well with more on that story conservative author john ramana and human rights activist referent graydon discussed the rise of negative attitudes to illegal immigrants and new strict immigration laws in some parts of the u.s. . the problem is that illegal immigrant workers have taken jobs over the years i mean the problem isn't so much of the farm industries as it's in construction bricklaying in the trades where we're seeing wage depression on a grand scale the issue is what we've got to really understand is that the whole argument is around the issue of scarcity when you got all of these folks on employed all of a sudden you've got to look for a scapegoat for the reason why folks are employed but that's not the reason why folks ought employ the reason folks on employed is because of the way the economic system was structured wasn't regulated fell apart falls and fell apart and us falling apart in europe it's the same kind of scenario now the issue that you need to understand and. should understand is that there's always been this country because of the capitalist system or a race to tr

conservative writer john ramana says illegal immigrants courts trouble and cost american taxpayers billions of dollars every year. corporations and the individual folks that are breaking our laws say you know to the reverend i want to say there are plenty of people who have been killed by illegal immigrants in the country in there are thousands of people have had their social security number stolen it's the illegals themselves who cause trouble as well as the businesses i mean business is not innocent here businesses as cost the american taxpayer billions of dollars through skirting labor laws it's the word illegal it doesn't count if you're breaking the law you know there is such a thing as illegal immigration the left is doing everything they can to change the fight from illegal immigrant to immigrant this isn't about racial profiling we can't have this discussion and then mix it with every other discussion and problem in the united states we're talking about illegal immigrant workers taking jobs. more than three months after the plane crash that killed poland's president and many of the

for john ramana is also a conservative and reverend graham is a human rights activist a cross swords on this very same issue in our washington studio discussing if the new strict immigration law is justified. the whole argument is around the issue of scarcity when you got all of these folks on employed all of a sudden you've got to look for a scapegoat for the reason why folks are employed but that's not the reason why folks ought employ the reason folks on employed is because of the way the economic system was structured wasn't regulated fell apart now the issue that you need to understand is that there's always been this country because of the capitalist system of race to try to produce more or less that has always been the case so what happens is that you ended up basically outsourcing it's not that folks took jobs we gave away jobs we gave away jobs right there on the mexican border when we passed nafta and we passed caf to all the free trade agreements it was so that people of corporations based in the united states could escape all the kinds of regulations and all the kinds of