book and who better to have a conversation, climate like-minded people with some differences than john rauchu may know both of these people from your work and by the way, i am john samples from cato and i thought jacob would tell us about the book and that we talk about the issues and turn to q and a in a little while. jacob mchangama is founder and executive director, host of the podcast clear and present danger, a history of free speech emphasizing how we recommend that to you. very interesting podcast series that is available still. his writings on free-speech have appeared in the economist, washington post, foreign policy and other outlooks around the world. he lives in copenhagen, denmark. john rauch is a senior fellow of government studies and author of tweet books. it made me feel bad, the eighth book, how do you see that? many articles on public policy, culture, and government, his articles have been highly influential as you may know. his many publications include the 2021 book the constitution of knowledge:the defense of truth as well as the 2,015 e-book which i think more and more