candidate john rizzo, who could not join us tonight said in response to the survey that his "top policy objective was better management of the city." if the city's growing liabilities outpace revenue, what poorly managed programs could be reformed or eliminated to help balance the city's budget. we would like to hear answers from mr. johnson, miss davis and miss olague. >> i will give you two examples of where he i would start to look. one we had with regard to the mta a major problem with work orders and waste and inefficiencies and we see other agencies basically cannibalizing muni. muni buss are being fixed with plastic bags and duct-tape. that kind of waste and inefficiency should be cut out of the system immediately. we need to look at our upper management fee schedules, including the highest paid police chief and some of the highest paid top brass at the police department. so i would start to look at our master fee schedules at the upper management levels where we can save some money. >> thank you. miss johnson? >> i agree with that, the sfmta is one of the areas where we found th

john rizzo is the former acting general counsel of the central intelligence agency who is now partner and fellow at the hoover institute and to you will be so happy to know has a book that he is written that will be coming out soon called the company's man. so i think we should just get started. and thinking this started with you, john, to talk about what has come up with all of these -- the references to leaks which was not how the day began, but was out the government officials who were here decided to cast a tone of the day. state as -- eight state as a thread throughout. can you contextualize this. not the present moment, but generally have how we appear in the context of national security and the intelligence community. >> thank you. it's a pleasure and honor to be here with all of you. this has been a fascinating thing to listen to, all this dialogue today from people. it's -- someone whom i have not met before now but to have respected from a distance. i was interested to see how this discussion has largely evolved into the issue of leaks because i know we are supposed to be lo

and john rizzo is the former general acting council of the intelligence agency, is now a partner at thehoover institute and who you will be happy to know has a book that he has that will be coming out very soon. it is called the company's man. i think we should just get started. i think we should get started with you first, john, to talk about what has come up with how the government officials who are here decided to cast the tone of the day. state of the thread throughout. just hop from your point of view. can you contextualizes little for us. as to generally how we appear within the context of national security and the intelligence community. >> thank you, karen. it is a pleasure and honor to be here. especially with all of you. this has been fascinating to listen to all of you over this dialogue today from people. it is something that i have respected from a distance. i'm interested to see how this discussion evolves into this issue. because i know we are supposed to be looking forward. but since i spent the last two years writing a book and was looking backward, i'm going to exert m

the types of damage that leaks can cause in any of us have been a national security arena, and john rizzo use against us. there was disclosure five years ago of a very responsibly run and for ineffective program going after terrorist finances and the treasury department called the swift program. once that got out, that really diminish our ability to track the financing of terrorists. that's serious damage to operation. damage to our sources. much has been made over the last 10, 11 years about the need to have human human intelligence. human intelligence is intelligence officials going out and developing sources. human beings are going to get inside the organization of your adversary and tell you what they are doing. we allow that after the fall of the berlin wall and after 9/11 we didn't have any clear insight into what our adversaries were doing because we didn't have the human intelligence. a government i think it's a good job over the last 12 years in doing that and that's what the reason why we're seeing a number of these terrorists get taken off the battlefield in a pretty impressive

and john rizzo, who was the former acting general counsel of the central intelligence agency, who is now a partner at steptoe and johnson and of the hoover institute, and who you will be so happy to know has a book that he is written that will be coming out soon. called the company's man. so i think we should just get started but i think we can get started with you, john, to talk about what's come up with all of these, the references to links which was not have the day began, it was have government officials you are here decided to cast the tone of the day. it stayed as a threat to outcome and just how from your point of view, can you can touch was this, not the present moment but generally, how they secure within the context of national security? and, indeed, the intelligence community. >> thank you, karen. it's a pleasure and an honor to be here with all of you. this is been fascinating to listen to all of this, all of this dialogue today from people, if i have not met before now, but i've respected from a distance. yeah, i was interested to see how this discussion has largely devo

about what exactly that is and it's been referred to so many times during today's proceedings and john rizzo, former acting counsel of the central intelligence agency who is now a partner at the tiller and johnson and at the hoover institute and who you will be so happy to know has a book that he's written that will be coming out soon called the company's man. so i feel we should just get started. i think we can get started with you to talk about what has come up with all of these references which is and how the day began but it's how the government officials are here to cast the tone of the day. it stayed throughout and just from your point of view can you contextualize this in terms of not the present moment, but generally how these appear in the context of national security and in the intelligence community. >> thank you. it is a pleasure and an honor to be here. this is in fascinating to listen to all of this dialogue. some i haven't met before now but i've respected from a distance. i was interested to see how the question has devolved into the issue of leaks and i know we are supposed