. >> thank you, john rizzo, sierra club. then elizabeth clevner. >> thank you, president torres and commissioners. the sierra club has been critical before you and critical before lafco in the past when having this rate discussion, however, we feel that the rate set before you are fair and the pricing structure that the staff is talking about is reasonable and within the realm of meeting pg&e's rates in a competitive way, especially when you factor in the rate increases that pg&e is planning. the power is clean, every environmental group, every major environmental group backs the state of california's definition of what clean energy is and this is what is being provided in the short term, what shell would provide, so you know, that is certified by the state of california. i want to address a little bit what was misrepresented from the commission on environment, it is public record that president arsy's motion failed, that he was speaking for the minority of the commission on environment, the majority of the commission on env