programs including gabriel sherman for his recent biography on fox news, roger ailes and cia lawyer john rizzo's account of his 34 year tenure at the agency. check our web site booktv.org for the complete schedule. on march 15th-sixteenth look for booktv's coverage of tucson festival of books from the university of arizona. let us know about book fairs and festivals in your area and we will add them to our list. e-mail us at booktv@c-span.org. >> begins with a question of the relationship of nature to politics. both claim that their political views are based in an idea that politics has to answer to human nature, a very different idea of what that was and different ideas what nature means in political debate has a lot to do with what follows. so an idea of nature that is an enlightened science idea, understands nature as a source of rules, rules that govern the behavior of individual particles, if you will, and turn society itself, basically a function of particles a little like newtonian physics applied to politics, not in a simple-minded way. he understood politics was in physics but the basic

john rizzo describes cramped confinement techniques. involves placing a detainee in a small box where he had to curl up for about two hours. here's a quote. for the small box, the interrogator would have the option to place a harmless insect inside. i couldn't resist interjecting. why an insect? >> he hates bugs, it will be harmless, but he won't know. he could have squelched this if he wanted to, but they would have a lot of legal problems if they carried them out. he decided to sign off on it because this was right after 9/11. there was a lot of fear of a possible attack. they believed others had information about the plots and he couldn't have lived with himself if another attack heard and they haven't gotten the information out. the cia and former director not commenting on the book. >> i know you are working the story and get more for us later in "the situation room." dennis rodman is now back in north korea and brought other former nba players along with him for a special birthday celebration for kim jung un, the leader there. we

and so that was disconcerting to say the least. >> john rizzo, it is a fascinating book "company man," 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia. appreciate you joining me. thank you very much. >> thank you. now the worst thing that happened to me in the cia, i guess it would have to be all the controversy and crisis that occurred in the mid -- beginning 2003, 2004, when the wind shifted and the interrogation program began. for the first time in my career, i became involuntarily not only a public figure but a controversial and divisive figure. and so that was disconcerting to say the least. >> john rizzo, it is a fascinating book "company man," 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia. appreciate you joining me. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up miracle on the hudson happened five years ago next week and turned my next guest into a real american hero, captain sully sullenberger. on whether we should be flying in this weather and whether we should be using our cell phones in mid-air. >>> the miracle on the hudson happened five years ago. can you believe that? th

but that's only the tip of the iceberg as longtime cia lawyer john rizzo tells it the relationship between the spy agency and la la land is quite cozy and his new book company men rizzo says that actors producers and other movie making power players were always happy to help out the cia in any way they could something the lawyer said was quote probably in equal parts because they are sincerely patriotic and because it gives them a taste of real life intrigue and excitement but in one story rizzo recounted there was an actor who wanted a taste of something else or should i say a sniff of something else the actor the actor refuses to take any money but he told us that instead of all instead all he wants of us is to score him the best fifty thousand dollars stash of cocaine we can find he seems to think we can get the real primo stuff rizzo learned about the situation because an agent had approached him to ask the cia if the cia could move forward and make the trade rizzo claims he nixie awkward request one one can only hope the actor was able to find his primo stuff elsewhere and that does i

the ice for as long time see any way or john rizzo tells it relationship between the spy agency and long while and as i could see it and his new book company men rizzo says that actors producers another movie making power players are always happy. how about this yesterday in any way they cried something the lawyer said was of poverty in equal parts because they are sincerely patriotic and because it gives them a taste of real life intrigue and excitement. my one story was over town and there was an actor who wanted to taste add something else or sec's sniff of something ounce. he said in that situation. the actor refuses to take any money but he told the sentence that all the wants of us is to score him the best fifty thousand dollars stash of cocaine you can find. he seems to think we can get the real team of staff. rizzo learned about the situation because an agent had approached and asked if the cit a can move forward and make the train brazil claims he makes the awkward for last. it's likely the actor was able to find his piedmont stuff elsewhere. can and does it for now i'm an irrit

in "company man: thirty years of controversy and crisis in the cia," john rizzo, a former lawyer for the cia for 34 years, provides an in-depth look inside the central intelligence agency. a firsthand account of the 2011 revolution in egypt is presented in "cairo: memoir of a city transformed. requests look for these titles in bookstores this week and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and on booktv.org. >> james tobin examines franklin dr. roosevelt's life with polio which he contracted in 1921 at the age of 39. the45

in "company man: thirty years of controversy and crisis in the cia," john rizzo, a former lawyer for the cia for 34 years, provides an in-depth look inside the central intelligence agency. a firsthand account of the 2011 revolution in egypt is presented in "cairo: memoir of a city transformed. requests look for these titles in bookstores this week and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and on booktv.org. >> james tobin examines franklin dr. roosevelt's life with polio which he contracted in 1921 at the age of 39. the 45-minute program from the louisville free public library in louisville, kentucky, is next on booktv. [applause] >> thanks a lot, greg. thank you. very grateful to be in this this beautiful library. thanks to you all for coming out on a fashionty evening. i do hope that we'll mostly have a conversation, think about questions you might want to ask, because i'm speaking -- i'll try to keep my prepared remarks short, read three short passages from the book, and then let's talk about fdr. >> my grandmother was a schoolteacher. she taught music in the detroit

john rizzo here with his new book, "company men."ay be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. >>> with us now, former cia chief legal officer john rizzo who worked for the ci aira for than 30 years. "company man: thirty years of controversy and crisis in the cia." "l.a. times" said the most influential career lawyer in cia history. i guess that beats being called, like, a worthless gadfly. right? worcester. >> worcester, massachusetts. >> he's got a great shirt on. >> this style i would call dapper. >> dapper. >> a company man. all right. john, i love the line in here where you talk about how the cia is the president's pop stand. personal pop stand. they're not going to give it up. explain that. >> yeah. the -- this is based on having served under seven different administrations. >> right. >> every president, i served with four during the tail end of ford. beginning with carter. turns to the cia, i found. sooner

also, john rizzo, "company man", he provides an in-depth look inside the central intelligence agency.and a first-hand account in adhaf soueif, "cairo." look for these titles and book stores coming this week and watch for these authors in the near future on booktv.org. >> up next, former "new york times" correspondent stephen kinzer presents a dual biography of john foster dulles and his brother, allen dulles. this is about an hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> thank you so much. it is a wonderful to be here with all of you today. especially here at this fabulous independent bookstore. those of us who like books lie on places like this, not just for selling our books, but also for the inspiration that we hope leads us to write. so i really appreciate this great opportunity and i always encouraged the people to patronize their independent bookstores. go online and figure out what books you like them and figure out to buy it. and i should add that legally i let the boston university and i am now at the watson institute for international studies at brown university, said wonderful place f

in my recent interview with john rizzo to discuss his new memoir "company man," i asked him if he stillt many consider torture. >> what if there had been a second attack? how could i live with myself if that were the case? >> how can you live with yourself knowing that what you did and what you got approved by the justice department was to many people not only morally repugnant, but illegal? >> looking back on the times and what i had to do, my conscience is clear. >> my full report will be coming up on the "today" show. >>> meanwhile, the u.s. chamber of commerce is laying out its priorities today starting with immigration reform. tom donahue is president and ceo of the u.s. chamber and joins me now with the state of the american business. your prime policy objective is immigration reform. how are you going to accomplish it? >> well, first of all, it's been done in the senate. and we did it in cooperation with support from the affl. >> labor and business together. >> now it's in the house and they're doing it in a different way. they're doing it one piece at a time. in fact, the speake

. >> john rizzo, it is a fascinating book "company man," 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia you joining me. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up miracle on the hudson happened five years ago next week and turned my next guest into a real american hero, captain sully sullenberger. on whether we should be flying in this weather and whether we should be using our cell phones in mid-air. weeknights are for favorites. olive garden's signature favorites now just $10. including everyone's favorite fettuccine alfredo and our classic lasagna. plus unlimited soup or salad, and warm breadsticks. signature favorites now just ten dollars, monday through thursday, at olive garden. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom. in the nation, what's precious to you is precious to us. so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your s

. >> reporter: john rizzo was one of the cia's top lawyers.e agency find out if another attack was coming? the cia worried one al qaeda operative in their custody could tell them. abu zubaydah, but he wasn't talking. in his new book rizzo writes one of the methods they wanted to try on him, waterboarding. depicted in the movie "zero dark thirty." that wasn't the only enhanced interrogation technique they wanted to try. in his book, rizzo writes of something called the insult slap and cramped confinement where, in zubaydah's case, they'd make him curl up in a small box and place an insect in it. quote, why an insect? the response, zubaydah hates bugs. it will be something harmless, but he won't know that. he was speechless over these ideas and had the power to squelch them. he didn't. why? the cia had just been slammed for being asleep at the switch before 9/11. if there was a second 9/11 in the works and zubaydah knew about it and the cia hadn't gotten the intelligence from him, rizzo wrote, i could not countenance the thought of living with t

in "company man: 30 years of controversy and crisis in the cia," john rizzo, a former lawyer for the cia, provides an in-depth look inside the central intelligence agency. a firsthand account of the 2011 revolution in egypt in "cairo." look for these titles in bookstores coming this week and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and on booktv.org. >> okay. can you tell me what, essentially, what part you played in -- [inaudible] >> i played no part but was an observer. i've been traveling and writing in india with cathy in south asia, southeast asia for 18, 20 years and spent time reporting as a foreign correspondent for the guardian and then for the times newspaper, and now we write books and we make documentary films in that part of the world. and we've been passing through mumbai two days before the attacks happened in 2008 when the whole city was basically held hostage by ten gunmen. and unlike 9/11 where lots of great books were promulgated, like "looming tower" by lawrence wright and books by other great writers, mumbai really didn't see the book that summed up the

the agen's former top attorney john rizzo is out with a new book called "comny man." mitchell got the chance to sit down with him. this is a very intesting guy. >> it is, indeed. he ian interesting guy. good morning, willie. for the first time this is an insider accoun o the cia company ma and the k desions that led to waterboarding and other techniques later outlaw all from thiseran cia lawyer who offers no apologies and fe regrets. >> reporter: even at thepy musi, john rizzoso james bond. but is the ultimate company man a lead ciaawyer during decades occasionally mred by scandal, and post1 interration practices later ouawed >> extraordinary measures had to betaken. >> you mean what was later decided to torture? no. if it had been torture, we wouldn't have done it. >> reporter: the cia helped hollywood recreate the waterboarding in "zero dark thirty." >> b t origiof therogram rely stat cia? >> oh, absolute. wi you? >> with me and few others. >> do you have a second thgh aut that? >> no. >> rio came to the cia in the 1970s the agency orcrate a ding cape. the ben affle