joining us now with more on the gun debate is john rosenthal founder and chairman of the group "stop violence." thanks for being with us, john. >> thank you for having me. >> michael: this conversation seems like it goes on and on, no more guns in bars. why is this controversial? >> i think that governor quinn's suggestion that people not care more than ten rounds makes a lot of sense as well. because in most cases there is no limit on the number of magazines or the amount of ammunition in each magazine and these high-capacity ammunition magazines and high power assault-type weapons are the common denominator in all of these mass shootings. whether it's newtown and the list goes on and on. i'm glad you continue to follow this. every single day the equivalent of three newtown-type massacres. 87 americans will be bury today from gun violence, including eight kids under 19 years old and it happens every single day. >> michael: it's shocking, and congress isn't doing anything. who do we put that on, john? do we put that on the president and vice president? do we see a renewed effort comin