could be. >> and there was nothing higher than that. >> no, nothing higher than john rutledge. and he sends his slave on -- i think it was the fourth of july to see the fireworks, to go to thompson's tavern and go up on the roof of thompson's tavern to see the fireworks. well, thompson turns the slave away. it's a female slave. no, you can't go up there. well, rutledge is outraged. and he goes then -- he's a major figure of course in the state legislature. he goes to the state legislature and he urges a bill to banish thompson from the state for this insult. well, thompson takes to the press, and he writes what can only be a typical american claim of equality against -- this kind of arrogance. and i think it expressed the kind of resentment that's coming out. for all places to take place in charleston shows that even there, where the structure of the society was much more hierarchical than it was, say, in boston, to have that kind of resentment expressed, typical american resentment against the snobbing -- the snobbery, this arrogance expressed by rutledge. expressed by rutledg

john rutledge would later serve on the supreme court. he basically helped win the american war for independence of south carolina. so very important individual. he said this constitution you've written, mr. madison is not going to work in south carolina. we need to modify this thing. so that is what happens in philadelphia. no one was even sure if this thing was even going to get out of philadelphia to begin with. so when it ideas and opinions floating around today. the constitution was going to die before the middle of the summer of 1787. at the store you often hear about the constitution is in pole. its large states against small states. the people i just listed all came from small states. not a fan of horse from a very large state. but that's not the real issue. in fact, the real issue is what type of government are we going to have? was it going to be a national government for a federal government? today we have a federal government. in the fine generation they didn't call it that. they didn't call it that coming out of california. p

rutledge? b, ben franklin or c, john adams? ward rutledge. >> edward rutledge was from south carolina and he was 26 years old. >> okay. one more question quick. i have to redeem myself. what date was the declaration of independence actually signed july 2nd? july 4th or august 2nd? >> you heard me. >> okay. >> ali. >> clayton loves history. >> i heard them say that. >> most of the signers were not in philadelphia for the fourth of july. they voted and left town. >> who signed it on the fourth of july? a lot of people. >> big signatures. >> john hancock exactly right. [bell] >> i love the bell. >> online and book stores nationwide. >> go to am zob right now. make these a big hit for your kids. woodrow for president among some others. >> could nascar's military sponsorship come to a screeching halt? fox broadcaster darryl waltrip is here to explain. does your phone share what you are seeing and hearing right now with the touch of a button ? droid does. does it post it instantly to facebook with sound ? droid does. droid with color