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with all that happening, let's bring in john rutledge >> kelly, good to be here. >> tlet's talk about the timeline if we're talking late may or june, should the u.s. consumer, should investors just shrug this off and say it's all right they're still getting a deal done or does that mean it's longer and longer that the tariffs stay on and you start to wonder if we're going to get this deal? >> everybody is inpatient about it i think there will be a deal done i think as long as you see gradual progress, warm fuzzy words and good press releases every time they meet, the fact they're meeting once a week now is a good sign i met with our trade team. they are very coherent they all agree with each other i didn't get any dissension inside the team. peter navarro wasn't at the lunch, but -- who is the dissenter. but i think they're going to get what they want they'll sell a bunch of stuff, which is what they want to do. that's easy. >> that's easy that's the easiest part. >> ip protection is the most important thing for us there's two parts of that. one is stop cheating the other one is start

. >> john rutledge, an insider, just gave a private level briefing to the cabinet, he thinks we're goingget a deal and he thinks all the sanctions are going to be removed. if we get that kind of deal, what happens to our markets? >> that matters. we all know a deal is coming but the details matter the most important details are what happens to the existing tariff those are all taken off, think about how much uncertainty there's been for businesses. >> you remove these tariffs and then all of a sudden we're talking about -- >> left with brexit, you know. fed is off the table trade is off the table suddenly there's one issue brexit that will be resolved by the end of the month, hopefully. >> let's hope so we don't sound too rosy, yes, we deal hopefully with brexit, deal with u.s./china trade, but let's not forget that trade tensions could be pivoting towards europe section 232 investigation on autos. and now that markets have rebounded president trump may feel emboldened to move in that direction. so the coast is not totally clear. >> listen, there's half a foot of snow on the ground up an