joining us is john rutledge, chief investment strategist. he's still finding big opportunity in china, and fast money trading nadine just made a big bet against china. john and nadine are cnbc contributors thank you both so much for joining us today john, i want to start with you because these days, it's kind of a contrarian bet to be bullish in china given all of the news flow it seems like it's coming fast and furious by the hour these days what gives you this conviction at this point in time? >> well, you know, i have never made any money out of the herd, and the herd is now definitely full of china stories. and i think people are pretty darn confused between inflation stories, growth stories, covid, china, hong kong, taiwan, et cetera i don't think china is a very timely bet right now, but i think china is a bet, is an investment you can't afford to not have in your portfolio the question is how much of it so i like to pick out a few names that i think are going to be there a long time from now, and keep my eye closely on what's happening