the man sitting to the right of joan is john salter who was a professor at a college, a historically black college right outside of jackson. he also wrote a memoir of his experiences in jackson called "jackson, mississippi." but nub of them really -- none of them really had gone to the trouble of actually documenting, you know, footnoting, making sure that this is really prepared for the historians who will review it in depth in the future. and so i determined to take that task as by own, and for the next 20 years, really, from 992 until -- 1992 until just last year, it took me that long to get it down and to find a publisher and get it out. so thankfully, it's out now. and if i have a little bit more time, paula? how much we got? >> [inaudible] >> five minutes, okay, we're good. i wanted to talk a little bit about how this story is i uniquely linked to med garre's life -- medgar's life. and i didn't know this until i started going deeper into the story. because, of course, medgar evers was a naacp field secretary in mississippi, the sole staff person for the naacp within the state s