i'm john sancrow the director of the commission. i have a few points that i'd like to make sure in addition to what i've already submitted to all of you. speaker: to be clear, you have five minutes. speaker: commissioners, because this case is being considered under a chapter 2 referral from the sunshine commission task force, and staff did not conduct an investigation. mr. grossman's argument of -- it lacks validity. the notion that the commission, by virtue of its bi laws has pre-waived client privilege -- the by laws -- the court of appeals made that the charter comes to the sunshine ordinance. in terms of waiver of the attorney client privilege, the withheld communications was between me and my staff and the city attorney's office. none of these communications were with members of the commission. as such, i know in way will serve the commission's legal responsibilities. because none of these communications were with a commission member, if there was a waive, it would have been my decision to make. he continues to insist that the