john sawers he was the chief of mi6. job made famous in books and on screen by james bonds' boss known as "m." i'm going to call him sir john. let's talk about vladimir putin. have we miscalculated -- by we i mean the rest that put in place the sanctions, condemned the annexation of crimea, refused to accept it, told russia to stop meddling in ukraine. the condemnations are in place but nothing has changed for vladimir putin. >> i wouldn't go that far. i think the russians were quite surprised at the level of the reaction, agreed reaction between the united states and europe, to -- in response to the annexation of crimea and to the conflict that he has helped contribute to in the east of ukraine. and the situation in ukraine is calmer now than certainly it was this time last year. i think president putin understands that, if he wants to have any prospect of the international sanctions on russia being lifted, then he is going to have to cooperate and work with the ukrainian government. and we in the west, we have to under

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