and ktvu's john sazaki has been there. >> reporter: take a look at 14th and broadway, city hall, that is close if you include everybody up on the broadway. probably close to a thousand people, folks waving their signs, this one says that war equals peace, of course there is some irony used in that sign. but this is -- where -- frank as you said, ground zero, i think a lot of people were referring to it as the epicenter of this occupy oakland movement. this is where everybody has kind of been staging before going out and -- going after the banks, trying to shut those down, going after the port, trying to shut it down. we have had upwards of 5000 people in this area at any one time. right now it is less because most of the people are at the port right now. but these folks are all claiming to be part of the 99% opposed to the 1% and the banks, believing that the banks took advantage of the bailout and then didn't help the people of america in the process. so there is a great deal of enthusiasm still going on here, although right now it is quite a bit -- quite a bit more mellow if you wil