barber will introduce a real guests, professor keith jeffery and sir john scarlett but i would just like to make it personal note here, an observation. professor jeffrey was part of the committee against them i had to defend my dissertation against earlier this year. i can tell you that he has some extremely tough probing questions, and that someone who truly believes that turnabout is fair play i expect you to ask equally tough in probing questions of him. that said i would note the passing so i expect your questions to be fair. but again i'd just like to get off the stage here and encourage you all to come to the spy museum, and over to the barber and let's get the business started. thank you very much. [applause] >> versus eating i wanted it is sir john scarlett, who was recently retired about a year ago as the retired chief, they don't say director in britain. they say chief, of mi6. it was sir john who was the one who commissioned "the secret history of mi-6" backing 2005. i just heard that it was around the middle of 2009 that the book was then delivered. so this is about a four an