the songs i of wrote by myself on this record and some with john shanks.ie: produced by john shanks. mixed by michael brower. jon: yeah, and new york guy. they mix, yeah, he was wonderful. charlie: the opening lines of the title track to say "these four walls have a story to tell, these doors are off the hinges." what do these lines mean? jon: here is the history and everyone is good to have their viewpoint of what has happened on this ride, on this roller coaster. it as the song goes on, says, this heart, the soul, this house is not for sale. in my integrity was called into question. did richie have a fight with you? was this about money? no, no, no. charlie: what was it about? things to deale with, and that's for him to discuss at some time, some place in his life and he is decided not to do this anymore at this level. and it's unfortunate. but i promise you, on your show and i have said publicly for years and it was never disputed, there was never a fight. he just didn't show up. there's a show that night. my phone rang. charlie: saying? jon: guess what

>> several i wrote alone and several with john shanks. >> produced by john shanks and you mixed by michaelery important. yes. to make sure that everything you got feels right, yeah. he was wonderful. >> rose: the opening lines of the title track say these four walls have got a tore to tell. the door is off the hinges. there is no wish in the well. >> yeah. >> rose: what do these lines mean? >> the four walls represent the members of the band. here's the history and everyone's going to have their viewpoint of what has happened on this rollercoaster. but as the song goes on, it says, this heart, this soul, this house is not for sale. and my integrity was, in fact, called into question, did richie have a fight with you, was this about money, no, no, no and no. >> rose: what was it about? he's got some things he had to deal with and that's for him to discuss at some time and place in his life, and then he's decided not to do this anymore at this level, you know. it's unfortunate, but i promise you on your show, and said it publicly, there was a dispute and he never showed up. 20,000 tickets so