it is the first book and we think >> john sherer former publisher from basic books. >> thanks. >>> david kilcullen, former senior counterinsurgency adviser to general petraeus in iraq, talks about the relationship between the war on terror and smaller guerrilla nabors mack being fought around the world. he also discusses president obama plans for afghanistan. mr. kilcullen is interviewed by "the washington post" david ignatius. the event hosted by the center for a new american security in washington, d.c. is one hour and 15 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening, everyone. i'm john, the president for the center of new american security and it's a great honor to welcome all of you to what promises to be exported during evening of discussion about the most important issues facing america today. the counter insurgency campaigns in iraq, afghanistan and the global counter insurgency against al qaeda. and we couldn't have a better pair of thinkers to light to guide us through these minefields. david ignatius is a columnist and associate at the "washington post" where he writes on