. >>> i'm john siegen that willer. welcome to al jazeera. i'm talking to jill abramson. i wake up in the morning, and i reach over to the night table and pick up my iphone and i call up "the new york times" app rather than walk outside and pick up the newspaper itself, which is sitting there, which often doesn't get read. i mean, is that something that happens to you? >> i actually am a multi-platform reader. it depends on where and when i am, but i still get immense pleasure out of reading the print newspaper. >> i do, too. >> i spend at least an hour every morning actually -- even though i've read, i mean, we published a lot of the articles that are in the paper on our website, and they've been published on our apps, too. but i still love, you know, just in some ways the serendipity seeing a story inside one of the sections i didn't know about before. you find yourself reading it. you don't know quite why, but it's sort of a joyous experience. >> we share that love of print. >> we're both of a certain age. >> we are of a certain age, shall we say. >> we are. my father