joining our coverage, john sipher.ary for nato and europe during the obama administration. with me onset is a steady wingman these days, rick stengel, former top state department official and a an msnbc political analyst. john sipher, my question is for you. does putin care when he sees ukrainian orphans on television, or does that make him happy? >> john sipher, we got to fix your audio. we can't hear you. >> i'm sorry about that. >> there we are. start over. >> it wasn't fair to show that before we came on. i was having to wipe my eyes. >> i know. >> but putin doesn't care about that. putin is of a long tradition of russian czars and communist party bosses. he doesn't care about his own people at all, they're just chattel to be used, and he certainly doesn't care about outsiders, and so no, he's not someone who is going to be changed by emotion or changed by these kind of scenes. he has a goal. he takes great pride in being seen as tough, and he uses sort of threats and intimidation to get his way, and so sadly, thos