and john skkennedy watched the speeches, the whole event, from, from his, on the television from the did, he did appreciate martin luther king's i have a dream speech in a very powerful way. he watched it on tv. and, and, you know, turned to the guy next to him. and was just flabbergasted at how well, king could deliver that speech and did deliver the speech. i think in a sense, kennedy real ied, he h eized he had seen a m was for all time. >> from a game who was not a bad orator. >> he may have felt a little stood up. >> let me, i could talk to you for hours about this book. i am excited you did this, and the toppi inic of this conversa. my question to you, what is the abiding lesson for lead tires day who find themselves on opposite shores? >> yeah. that's the question. that is a very good question. i think, i look at history as the story of today. basically. and this book in my mind, remind us that the issues that they were dealing with, are not gone today. we still are dealing with the issues of, empathy. conscience, moral courage, the aspect of, of john kennedy, evolving and gro