it was almost like he saw john skully as a father figure or mentor. scully really wanted to be cool and hip and wanted steve's approval. a famousle, there was line, the apartment that he was thinking of buying, he brings john skully up and says do you want to spend the rest of your life selling sugar water or do you want to do something meaningful? he is a man of cap school -- prep school sensibility, great manners. it is hard for him to deal with conflict. steve felt the price. steve said the price of admission of being with me is i is be able to tell you that you are full of it. you need to be able to tell me i'm full of it. we need to be able to duke it out. skully was not worrying about that. he was a marketer. he did not worry about the product. it was shelf space marketing. i think that steve felt that skully didn't get into how awesome the mac was. it didn't help that it was great and he priced macintosh at 2500 bucks. microsoft started dominating the computer business and so i think their relationship was doing fine as long as apple is doing f