you got john slattery out of med ved. >> here's the thing. 14 million cars will be sld up.house is not that street coming on big. t our country is stronger than people think. >> isn't it true? >> yes. we got one bad employment number, okay? we had numbers last week that were extraordinarily good. do you know how many people get to work in the car business? it's the most important driver of an economy. high end cars and low end cars. >> i want to ask you, i want to go back to heilman. you first, david. he knows it's a way of rubbing this president's nose in something, it's a way of expressing his kret tud for the agenda, and this isn't just for the yaa, judge why isn't he talking birthing touch that spontds. there's so many issues involving washington but. . why is he out there as a smart businessman if he's got to deal with other businessmen to make deals with him? >> he makes a lot of sense when he comes on our network on tuesday mornings, but the executives i talk to, they're far more concerned with the fact that oil has come down now, that they're worried about joining -