. >> john soliday, independent economist. it seems that president obama's speech may have been leading us to chase a red herring with croney capitalism. and the same thing on the side of the conservatives. of attacking croney unionism. and the question i think this was professor ceasar's core of his point. well, aren't we really missing the issue? and thatwe, is this a fair place, you know? t.r. had his square deal and obama is fair deal. what kind of place do we live in? is it north korea? is it cuba? what is it? some sweat factories in industrial revolution europe? and so the question comes back to this thing, what size of government? and isn't government -- and all of these crime scenes with croney capitalism, croney unionism, there's one common denominator. government is in every one of those scenes. and i'm wondering if some of this isn't getting off on the wrong track if, indeed, professor caesar didn't hit this right on the head, that there's a politics of evasion. any comments? >> well, there is this decor, you could