. >> after our news makers discussion with john spratt, but we are here.hairman, what is going to be the greater challenge in reaching hissgoals, the republican in the house or democrats in the senate? >> is going to be very difficult in both chambers. >> why is that? >> in the house, these deficits are very big. we're talking about $1.5 trillion this year and the same next year and an average of five trillion dollars over 10 years. and we see many of them coming up for reelection this year. it is hard to imagine adding anything to the deficit this year. pennsylvania is in play. illinois is in play. >> steven, you kept asking questions going back to the politics of all of this. if what is your thinking? >> it you take the totality of the interview, what congressman spratt really illustrated was that the democrats are being pulled into different directions get sort of, high speed. they're closer snapping right now because they're having a hard time

satellite corp. 2010] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] "newsmakers" has john spratt with us. >> what are we going to see in its place? >> a budget enforcement resolution, chiefly and primarily, it will set the level for discretionary spending, which you know and i know is the number that appropriators will use for bills that will be passing, reporting in the near future. that will be the number that determines how much discretionary spending there will be. no. we will report in all probability will be below the number expected. we're going to propose for 2011 about $7 billion new in discretionary spending. this will, keep in mind, have statutory entitlement spending, and also fixes reductions and tax cuts in the sense that neither can be done are undertaken if they have an adverse effect on the budget. finally, it sets a goal for the next five years, which is to get the budget deficit down, the primary ballots, as some would put it, and then we have in place, we of the fiscal condition, which will be making recommendations for the near term and the long term. you put

but first congressman john spratt is our guest on the 10:00 a.m. show, the chair of the house budget committee and as marty kruts inninger said a key player when it comes to the reform bill now moving through the house and the senate. >> when you go out and talk to folks, what are they asking you? >> jobs, work and the economy. no question about it. that comes ahead of everything else. continually. all parts of my district. i have 14 counties just south of charlotte, north carolina, and columbia, south carolina. stand unemployment inflate almost all 14 has been in double digits for some time now. some as high as more is than 20%ment what we're seeing in my particular district is contradictlyical unemployment laird on top of structural unemployment. the structural unemployment coming from the textile industry, furniture, other non-traditional industries. >> we're taking it on the chin on top of the contradictlyical effects and probably going to be last recovering the jobs that come with the lag are probably going to be a long lag in our particular c

that is why the house is working to adopt a budget enforcement resolution written by chairman john spratt which will set limits on discretionary spending that require further cuts below the president's budget, reinforce our commitment to paygo, direct committees to identify reforms to eliminate waste, duplication, and inefficiencies within our jurisdiction, and endorse the goals of the president's bipartisan fiscal commission, and reiterate the commitment to vote on the commission's recommendations. this budget enforcement resolutionnwill enforce fiscal discipline in the near term works on a long-term plan to get our country back to fiscal health. it is not possible to debate and budget until we have considered the bipartisan commissions deficit reduction plan which is expectee in december. i believe that congress muut take up and vote on the plan. to share sacrifices fairly, and to be politically viable, the commission's proposal can only have, in my view, one form -- an agreement that cuts spending and looks to revenues hen the economy recovers. on the spending side, we could and should

we re in the marity and john spratt said if you can't forwd a budget you can't govern and yet today don't s a dget all across this country, amerifamilies have had to readdress their budget, make tough decisions in their family households. that's whatou do ring difficult times. businesses have had make tough disions andet this congress is refusingo make the tough choices. instd, we coinuehe dicit spendg, passing on dt to the nexgeneration. erica deserves better. our ildren and our grandchildn deserve tter than connued deficit spending. e eaker pro tempore: the gentle'sime has expired. for what purse doethe gtleman from minnesota rise? >> to address the houseor one minute. the speer pempore: without objectio thankou, mr. speaker. rise today to calon members of congress d thwall street orconference committ to stand for hardworking amerans and send us a strong ll that protects the inrest of those on main street wh have been paying and will cotinuto pay the price for waeet excesses. mr. walz: over the pa few weeks i have en meeting with small business owners like one minnesota. community leade

john spratt supported it and still does. what's your ability to make legislation progress on that. realizing it's early, say about the ability to change the way things work in this town? that your administration wanted to do? >> that we're not making legislative progress on that proposal so i think your discounting us too much. wait and see. >> are you willing to meet republican ideas to lock off the savings for deficit reduction? >> there's lots of different design items that go into the proposal. the one your mentioning is not included in the proposal but one is included in not only republican but some bipartisan and democrat as well. the reason we did not do that is similar to motivation that i gave for many of the steps we're taking. this is not just about - to your question also - it's not just about reducing the deficit. it's also about making sure that we have - we're being as responsible we can spending taxpayers dollars wisely. money shifted from a less effective program to a more effective program is a good thing. we want to facilitate and a that in our proposal that's no

that is why the house is working to adopt the budget enforcement resolution written by chairman john spratthich will settle discretionary spending, but require further cut below the president's budget. it will reinforce our commit to paygo, direct reforms to eliminate waste, and efficiencies within our jurisdiction. and it will endorse the goal of the president's fiscal commission and reiterate the commitment to vote on the recommendations. this budget resolution will enforce fiscal discipline in the near term, while the fiscal commission works on a long-term plan to get our country back to fiscal health. it is not possible to debate and pass a long-term budget until we have considered the bipartisan that -- budgetary -- budget deficit plan. it is in december. i believe congress must take up and vote on the plan. to share sacrifices fairly and to be a vote -- politically viable can only have, in my view, one form, an agreement that cuts spending and looks to revenues when the economy recovers. on the spending side, we could and should consider a higher retirement age, more progressive socia

that is why the house is working to adopt a budget enforcement resolution written by chairman john spratt which will set limits on discretionary spending that require further cuts below the president's budget. reinforce our commitment to pay-go, direct committees to identify reforms to eliminate waste, duplication, and inefficiencies within our jurisdiction. and endorse the goal of the president's bipartisan fiscal commission. and reiterate the commitment tt vote on the commission's recommendations. this budget enforcement resolution will enforce fiscal discipline in the near term ++ while the fiscal commission works on a long-term plan to get health. try back to fiscal it isn't possible to debate and pass a realistic long-term budget until we have considered the bipartisan commission's deficit reduction plan. which is expected in december. i believe that congress must take up and vote on that plan. to share sacrifices fairly and to be politically viable, the commission's proposals can only have in my view one form. agreement that cuts spending and looks to revenues when the economy recov