only on verizon. >>> joining me now is former supreme allied commander john stavridis.r of multiple books, including the novel of the united states navy. admiral, thank you for being with us. i want to pick up from my conversation with richard. in addition to president biden's decision to allow ukraine use these american made attack ems in russia, biden reversed course allowing the ukrainians to use. in the summer months of 2022, just months into the war, the biden administration ended a trump era policy allowing the use of the land mines. talk to me about that. this is certainly an escalation in this war. >> no question, it is. really, the history of the biden team's approach here has been cautionary. let's take our time. let's wait until we send the tanks. let's wait until we send the air defense. let's wait until we send the f-16s. now at the very end portion of this, they are in my view, opening the flood gates of the missland mines, both of which w be important but not definitive in the course of the war. ali, if you go back one click earlier, what probably pushed