up next, we have john stinson, followed by jonathan coker. >> i'm john stinson. i'm a 43-year member of the pension fund. i came 30 minutes early to this meeting and you started 30 minutes late. i don't think you've ever started a meeting on time. will you meet start meetings on time. and the biggest threat to humankind is not fossil fuel or climate change. the biggest threat is when you have two crazy people that could start a nuclear war. and we have that situation today, one in north korea and one in the white house, unfortunately. if you divest in fossil fuel investments, you will need to divest from hedge funds of the what do you think that they would say if you cannot invest in tobacco or gun companies? please divest from both. >> up next, jonathan coker, followed by betty holiday, followed by david paul. >> i divest. thank you. >> betty holiday -- [inaudible] >> ms. holiday, if you are going to speak, come to the microphone or yield your time. >> remember the cost of the fossil fuel industry. >> david paul, herbert weiner, john monthread. what is your name