[laughter] i turned from a special occasion poet to a deadline poet because of john sununu. not the senator come but his father who is the chief of staff for george h.w. bush. and i think it's here to stay but i'm the only person who ever turned her current poetry by johnson m. george h.w. bush presidency was sort of a great time for those of us in this small joke trade. this is very bland group of people. i was referred to them premises nice this nice protestant gentleman sues. no really juicy scandals. and they all sort of looked alike. the only person who stood out was john sununu, who wasn't even shaped like the rest of them. also, he had that characteristic that draws the attention of people like me. i'm mad as he was very interested in improving that he was the smartest guy in the room. they seem to be his main aim in life. ed rollins, the political campaign manager once said that john sununu is an argument against telling your child that he has a high i.q. [laughter] anyhow that beautiful name, sununu. i love that name. a summary that name, particularly on the subway.

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. >> he was talking about john sununu. that maybe were not racist but had racial undertones to them. the thing is the republican party is in 2016 you don't have to have a colin powell out there saying things like that. they have three years before the next election to change their image. colin powell is a figure of perspective not just among african-american but moderate voters. >> steve, jennifer brought up an interesting point about, of okay, the democrats weren't there now. 15 years ago we were having that conversation and you did see some democrats and it was a whole bunch of, quote, party switchers back in ' 4, '95, '96 and b that new era of the democratic party. it's the republicans having to deal with these defections, if you will. prince kolcroft is another one, with the foreign policy, i'm not with them anymore. >> all the top members of the george h.w. bush administration now rallying around chuck hagel because they think that's more responsible view of foreign policy, not to invade every country and to start eve

. >> he faced john sununu. i wonder if he could share with our on the -- audience what it was like to face him. >> it was up there. right there with john stossel as it came rick interview -- as a train wreck interview. when i questioned one of his remarks, he said your public radio, you are just there to kiss the presidents but to reverse a we pay any attention to you -- butt. why should we pay any attention to you? in a way, it was kind of refreshing. here's a guy, and varnish. it was very addicted but i did not add that, i never edit -- it was very edited but i dnot not edit for my benefit. >> he seems to have that effect on however he talks too. you bring up the notion of npr. why npr and pbs are such a target for people like john sununu or mitt romney? can you understand why, particularly at npr where fairness and the object of the scenes to be so emphasized, why does everyone who -- i guess, what are you such a target for people who you would think would embrace fairness and objectivity? >> who would that b

. >> since karen has taken my two i'm going to go with john sununu.rrogate i've ever seen in my life. >> it is so good to be rid of him. >> and he was everything that's wrong with the republican party's brand. surly and condescending and racially insensitive and ugly and he was awful and he kept talking. >> ari, the donald trump award goes to who this year? >> karl rove -- >> on election night? >> yes. >> on politics. both. on politics on election night he had no idea what was going on. on policy this was if year we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy to go against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party are turning against that. that's going to be his legacy sadly for a long time. >> for 20 years on the show the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. once again, i feel i will be giving it to donald trump because i do find it impossible to updo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple of people who tried. they tried really hard to outdo donald trump. let's take a look at, for example,

. >> now, when you look, victoria, for example at john sununu. he was a mitt romney surrogate. used racial comments during the campaign. watch this. >> can you imagine how dumb this president is? this is a president who wallowed in chicago in the murky soup of politics/felons. he has no idea how the american system functions. he is absolutely lazy. and detached from his job. what people saw last night, i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. >> lazy, dumb, incompetent. and general powell said sunday when many of us in the african-american community hear lazy, the next word is shiftless. all of these are stereotypes. felons. and what is most disturbing about this is he was a surrogate for governor romney, the presidential candidate, and not one time did he denounce the statements. sununu has a right to say what he wants, but he was never, ever denounced by the campaign and he was an official representative of the campaign nap is what was so offensiv

during the 2012 gop convention at the request of romney adviser ben ginsburg and former governor john sununu. in essence, they give a boost to establishment candidates like mitt romney and raise the bar for grassroots candidates like, oh, a guy named ron paul. when it came up for a vote, this was the reaction at the convention. >> all those in favor, signify by saying aye! >> aye! >> all those opposed, no. >> no! >> the ayes have it! the resolution has been adopted. [ booing and clapping ] >> good old-fashioned strong arm politics there. anyway, here's what they're so upset about it. first, the amendments require that delegates sent to a convention on behalf of a candidate actually vote for that candidate. that means delegates are no longer free to cast their vote as they wish. that means the ron paul strategy of winning delegates at the state convention level is essentially thrown out the window, even if he wins them, those folks still have to vote for romney. second, they increase the number of states a candidate needs to win in order to get his or her name placed in the nomination from fi

. >> since karen has taken my two i'm going to go with john sununu.surrogate i've ever seen in my life. >> it is so good to be rid of him. >> and he was everything that's wrong with the republican party's brand. surly and con descending and racially insensitive and ugly and he was awful and he kept talking. >> ari, the donald trump award goes to who this year? >> karl rove -- >> on election night? >> yes. >> on politics. both. on politics on election night he had no idea what was going on. on policy this was if year we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy to go against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party are turning against that. that's going to be hig his legacy sadly for a long time. >> for 20 years on the show the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. once again, i feel i will be giving it to donald trump because i do find it impossible to updo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple of people who tried. they trooid really hard to outdo donald trump. let's take a look at, for e

john sununu. he was the worst surrogate i have ever seen in my house.was everything that's wrong with the republican party's brand. surly and condescending and racially incensensitive and ug l i and he kept talking. >> ari, the donald trump award goes to who this year? >> my trump award goes to karl rove. >> oh, yeah. >> on election night? >> on politics -- both, on politics election night he had no idea what was going on. on. si this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write discrimination into state constitutions against people who happened to be gay. the republic and republican party are turning against that. that's going to be his legacy for a long time on this civil rights issue. >> as i said, for 20 years here on the show the donald trump award has gone to donald trump and once again i feel i will be giving it to donald trump. because i do find the impossible to outdo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple people who tried to outdo donald trump. let's take a look at, for examp

powell used the appearance to call out the gop's race baiters, the sarah palins and the john sununusf the party and asked leaders to put an end to the racist talk. >> there is also a dark -- a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that is they still sort of look down on minorities. how can i evidence that? when i see a former governor say that the president is shucking and jiving. that's a racial era slave term. when i see another former governor after the president's first debate where he didn't do very well says that the president was lazy. he didn't say he was slow, he was tired, he didn't do well. he was lazy. now it may not mean anything to most americans, but to those of us who are african-americans, the second word is shiftless, and then there is a third word that goes along with it. birther, the whole birther movement. why do senior republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party? >> i'm joined tonight be dr. james peterson, director of africana studies and professor at lehigh university. professor, i

and you hear people like john sununu who i thought was a heavyweight republicans for years using terms- why doesn't the president learn how to be an american? it's not just the one line, it's lots of lines. >> you're absolutely right because the leadership of the republican party as most people see it is the leadership in congress. it's john boehner and mitch mcconnell -- >> and priebus. >> and reince priebus, and if those people aren't realizing the demographic realities, aren't realizing that the party has to be a big tent party if it's ever going to win national elections again, then where goeth the gop? >> let me tell you -- you're laughing -- the weird thing is you're turning off black votes if people vote, but you're also turning out the electorate, alex. the giddy part of this is, as you once said a long time ago, frank rizzo in philly who wasn't too popular hmong african-americans what's the greatest voter register in my city's history. they were not going to be talked into not voting. they showed up. here is general powell say it caused people to turn out and stand in line bec

you faced one of the great media figures in the election, which was john sununu. share but it was like to face the evil master. >> it was up there among the most contentious interviews i have ever done. it's right there with at john stossel, a truly train wreck interview, but fascinating for that effect. when he said, when i questioned his remarks, he said, "you are public radio and you are just there to kill the president's but -- the president's butt, and why should we pay any attention to your?" public radio is refreshing. here he is, here's the guy, unvarnished. it was very evident, but i never edit to win the argument. as a result, we never get complaints about the evidence we do. but he was who he was. so i thought it was really useful and even though i was left kind of like this all the way through it. >> he seems to have that effect on whoever he talks to. you bring up the notion of npr. i want to ask why npr and pbs are such a target for people like john sununu or romney. why, particularly at npr, where fairness and our objective is seem to be so emphasiz

you, yourself, faced one of you faced one of the great media john sununu. i wonder if you can share what it was like. >> it was one of the most contentious interviews i have ever done. just a truly train wreck sounding interview. when he said, when i questioned one of his remarks, he said york public radio, you are just there to kiss the president's butt. public radio is always so civil. a way, it is kind of refreshing. here he is, here is the guy unvarnished. it was very edited. i never edit to win the argument. but he was who he was. i thought it was really useful, even though i was -- all the way through it. >> you bring up the notion of npr, and why are npr and pbs such a target for people like sununu or romney? particularly where fairness and of the activity seemed to be so rigid why are you such a target for people who you would think would embrace fairness and objectivity? >> who would that be? >> why is big bird such an enemy? >> it is not big bird. big bird is the savior. every administration has collided with npr and complained about it, republica

you faced one of the great media -- john sununu. i wonder if you can share what it was like. >> it was one of the most contentious interviews i have ever done. just a truly train wreck sounding interview. when he said, when i questioned one of his remarks, he said york public radio, you are just there to kiss the president's butt. public radio is always so civil. a way, it is kind of refreshing. here he is, here is the guy unvarnished. it was very edited. i never edit to win the argument. but he was who he was. i thought it was really useful, even though i was -- all the way through it. >> you bring up the notion of npr, and why are npr and pbs such a target for people like sununu or romney? particularly where fairness and of the activity seemed to be so rigid why are you such a target for people who you would think would embrace fairness and objectivity? >> who would that be? >> why is big bird such an enemy? >> it is not big bird. big bird is the savior. every administration has collided with npr and complained about it, republica

when you look at comments made by republican john sununu, how could you not see the hint of racism in voice when he talks about the president? are there disagreement when's it comes to policy? absolutely. let's remember the republican party actually was the party that gave us the epa. the republican party gave us the president who fought to enslave them. the republican party was the party that had the first president -- or former president speak in support of marriage, of gay marriage, and of gay rights, and i'm speaking of president ford when it comes to that. in other words, the republican party used to be the party of big ideas that believed in freedom and believed in diversity. the question isn't, as colin powell is a republican? the question is what has happened to the republican party? that it's moved away from this wonderful history of moving this country forward, and it's become somewhat of an antiquated viewpoint of what this country should be. that, to me, is the real question about the republican party, not colin powell. >> okay. final word, will. >> it's just not true. loo

. >>> bring back our gaggle here, former senator john shn sununu, manti teo, a good friend pd of showlike these leaves knots in our stomachs because we so desperately want to believe our sports heroes are pure and we want to hope too that our politicians are at least competent. we build them up, break them down because we expect so much out of our national institutions. you think he overwrote? >> i think one we don't know all the details about the teo situation. >> they were concerned about these reputation, what information they had, he's a young guy. obviously he was misled to some extent in this whole process. the lance armstrong situation is very different. i think the election we just had for the baseball hall of fame because of the use of performance-enhancing drugs. >> if the university thought that there were some possible fallout, i mean the athletic director said this could have been about interacting ncaa requirements, it could be about extortion, if that's the case, you would think that the university would move forward with it's own investigation, gather the facts and the

>>brian: i also thought it was very good that bill pinned him down on john sununu and sarah palin.e didn't like their comments but he said you know both of them. do you think they're racist or have innuendo there? colin powell said no. >>steve: one of the reasons colin powell, who describes himself as a republican, voted for barack obama in 2008 and 2012 was he said he simply liked barack obama's economic plan better than john mccain and liked it better than mitt romney's plan. >>brian: 24 minutes before the top of the hour. >>steve: more headlines. this kid was no killer, but his mom says cops treated him like one. new york city police department officers hauled this seven-year-old who is featured on the front page of the new york post today, out of his classroom in the bronx here in new york and handcuffed him to a pipe behind a chair for hours. then he was taken to the 44th precinct where he was interrogated for his family says ten hours. the reason? because he was accused of scooping up five bucks from the playground. khrarpblgs were dropped against the -- charges were dropped