it talks about johnson new -- john sununu's firing. >> interesting question. i do not know that story well. i was not around for that episode in 41's administration. he did, according to all accounts, he did ask 43 and his deputy chief of staff, andy card, to deliver the message to john sununu. the president had decided that he was not right for the moment. why did 41 ask other people to deliver the news? i am not sure. that is not 43's style. one of the amusing bits of follow-up from the earlier administration was that the first chief of staff was andy card and he has served longer than any chief of staff in history. the only person who has served longer was it in eisenhower's administration. in the bush 43 white house, i was the deputy to andy card. every week or so, andy would come into my office and say, how am i doing? does the president want to get rid of me? you just let me know and i am gone. andy came at this with the perspective of somebody who had to deliver the news to his boss. that was not 43's style. he was very warm and connected in a family wa

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