kqed california politics and government reporter marisa lagos, health editor carrie feibel, and john supulvedathank you all. cop republicans made it clear -- top republicans made it clear that they're serious about gutting the affordable care act. how will this affect california where more than one-third of californians are on medi-cal which the aca helped expand? >> exactly. it will be huge. not all californians on medi-cal, they were on medi-cal before, but 3.8 million californians got on to medi-cal because of the affordable care act. and an additional 1.3 million were able to purchase their own individual policy because of the affordable care act. and if that money all goes away, that's $20 billion a year that california will lose. and that will have a huge trickle-down effect on people's health care, people going back to being uninsured about on our economy. >> i've been talking to folks around the capitol. there's consensus among democrats that there's no way to backfill that money. if that $15 billion goes away from childless adults who were able to go on medi-cal because of obamacare,