johns, thanks for that. and with me now is carrie swisher. a contributing opinion writer for "the new york times" and host of "sway and pivot podcast." nobody has more access to the biggest players in tech than she does. it is so great to have you with us. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> yeah. last hour, i don't know if you saw this. but i asked dr. anthony fauci about this impact of vaccine misinformation. let's listen to that, and let's talk about it on the other side. >> if you look at the extraordinary, historic success in eradicating small pox and eliminating polio, for most of the world. and we are on the brink of eradicating polio. if we had had the pushback for vaccines, the way we're seeing on certain media, i don't think it would have been possible, at all, to not only eradicate small pox. we probably would, still, have small pox and we probably would, still, have polio in this country if we had the kind of false information that's being spread, now. if we had that, back decades ago, i would be certain that we'd still have polio