taft in '52. so it's hard to figure out what other non-president or vp was this formidable. >> clarence, is anybody else really running? johnwould like to be president. joe biden. amy klobuchar, who would be great candidates. elizabeth warren would like to be president. these are all serious presidential candidates and none of them are running. >> that's right. and i think, well, a number of reasons. for one thing, it takes a lot of money to run for president. a billion-dollar campaign. hillary clinton has the momentum, she's also got a lot of people champing at the bit for the last eight years for her to run. that's what i call the ralph nader effect, you've got to be careful inside the party to challenge a strong front-runner because if that front-runner then stumbles, you get blamed for it. you run that risk. >> he ran third-party. >> well, yeah, but people still blamed him for -- >> he lets me know that now and then. let me ask you with what it means to the republicans, jonathan because you're out there. the near certitude that hillary clinton will run going into the fall of '16, what will that do to the republicans? do